Lotos Rally Poland 2015

Lotos Rally Poland 2015


02. 07. 2015 - 05. 07. 2015

Unofficial results
List for category: ABSOLUT
SS 19 - Baranowo 2 (Power Stage)
SS length: 14.60km
Pos. No. Driver / Co-driver
Vehicle
Group SS time Aver. speed
sec/km
Diff.Leader
Diff.Prev.
1 1
FRA
Ogier S. / Ingrassia J.
Volkswagen Polo R WRC
RC1 00:06:52.0 127.57
0.00
00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 6
EST
Tänak Ott / Mõlder Raigo
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
RC1 00:06:52.1 127.54
0.01
00:00:00.1
00:00:00.1
3 9
NOR
Mikkelsen A. / Fløene Ola
Volkswagen Polo R WRC
RC1 00:06:55.8 126.41
0.26
00:00:03.8
00:00:03.7
4 3
GBR
Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul
Citroën DS3 WRC
RC1 00:06:57.5 125.89
0.38
00:00:05.5
00:00:01.7
5 4
NOR
Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas
Citroën DS3 WRC
RC1 00:06:59.2 125.38
0.49
00:00:07.2
00:00:01.7
6 7
BEL
Neuville T. / Gilsoul Nicolas
Hyundai i20 WRC
RC1 00:06:59.3 125.35
0.50
00:00:07.3
00:00:00.1
7 20
NZL
Paddon Hayden / Kennard John
Hyundai i20 WRC
RC1 00:07:00.5 124.99
0.58
00:00:08.5
00:00:01.2
8 5
GBR
Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
RC1 00:07:01.4 124.73
0.64
00:00:09.4
00:00:00.9
9 8
ESP
Sordo Dani / Martí Marc
Hyundai i20 WRC
RC1 00:07:03.9 123.99
0.82
00:00:11.9
00:00:02.5
10 21
CZE
Prokop Martin / Tománek Jan
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
RC1 00:07:06.3 123.29
0.98
00:00:14.3
00:00:02.4
11 10
NLD
Abbring Kevin / Marshall S.
Hyundai i20 WRC
RC1 00:07:10.8 122.01
1.29
00:00:18.8
00:00:04.5
12 2
FIN
Latvala J. / Anttila Miikka
Volkswagen Polo R WRC
RC1 00:07:12.7 121.47
1.42
00:00:20.7
00:00:01.9
13 14
POL
Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak M.
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
RC1 00:07:13.5 121.25
1.47
00:00:21.5
00:00:00.8
14 37
ITA
Bertelli L. / Granai Lorenzo
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
RC1 00:07:15.3 120.74
1.60
00:00:23.3
00:00:01.8
15 43
FIN
Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne
Škoda Fabia R5
RC2 00:07:17.5 120.14
1.75
00:00:25.5
00:00:02.2
16 36
EST
Kruuda Karl / Järveoja M.
Citroën DS3 R5
RC2 00:07:20.3 119.37
1.94
00:00:28.3
00:00:02.8
17 48
EST
Pärn Sander / Morgan James
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:21.3 119.10
2.01
00:00:29.3
00:00:01.0
18 45
FRA
Maurin Julien / Klinger Nicolas
Ford Fiesta S2000
RC2 00:07:25.0 118.11
2.26
00:00:33.0
00:00:03.7
19 41
PER
Fuchs Nicolás / Mussano F.
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:25.1 118.09
2.27
00:00:33.1
00:00:00.1
20 44
DEU
Kremer Armin / Winklhofer P.
Škoda Fabia R5
RC2 00:07:26.9 117.61
2.39
00:00:34.9
00:00:01.8
21 38
FIN
Ketomaa Jari / Lindström Kaj
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:28.4 117.22
2.49
00:00:36.4
00:00:01.5
22 76
FIN
Suninen Teemu / Markkula Mikko
Škoda Fabia S2000
RC2 00:07:29.2 117.01
2.55
00:00:37.2
00:00:00.8
23 40
SWE
Tidemand Pontus / Axelsson Emil
Škoda Fabia R5
RC2 00:07:30.3 116.72
2.62
00:00:38.3
00:00:01.1
24 69
SVK
Koči Martin / Kostka Lukáš
Peugeot 208 T16
RC2 00:07:33.7 115.85
2.86
00:00:41.7
00:00:03.4
25 84
POL
Oleksowicz M. / Kuśnierz M.
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:36.7 115.09
3.06
00:00:44.7
00:00:03.0
26 50
POL
Kołtun J. / Pleskot I.
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:42.2 113.72
3.44
00:00:50.2
00:00:05.5
27 49
POL
Hołowczyc K. / Kurzeja Łukasz
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:43.0 113.52
3.49
00:00:51.0
00:00:00.8
28 70
CHL
Torres Fuentes R. / Vazquez Liste D.
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:50.3 111.76
3.99
00:00:58.3
00:00:07.3
29 74
POL
Ptaszek Hubert / Kozdroń Kamil
Ford Fiesta S2000
RC2 00:07:53.1 111.10
4.18
00:01:01.1
00:00:02.8
30 64
GBR
Pryce Osian / Furniss Dale
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:07:56.2 110.37
4.40
00:01:04.2
00:00:03.1
31 72
AUS
Pedder Scott / Moscatt Dale
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:07:57.6 110.05
4.49
00:01:05.6
00:00:01.4
32 81
ITA
Crugnola Andrea / Ferrara Michele
Renault Clio R3T
RC3 00:07:58.0 109.96
4.52
00:01:06.0
00:00:00.4
33 68
FRA
Margaillan M. / Gordon Fabrice
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:07:58.1 109.94
4.53
00:01:06.1
00:00:00.1
34 52
ROU
Tempestini S. / Chiarcossi M.
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:08:01.8 109.09
4.78
00:01:09.8
00:00:03.7
35 101
GBR
Cave Tom / Parry Craig
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:04.9 108.39
4.99
00:01:12.9
00:00:03.1
36 85
POL
Oleksowicz K. / Sadowski S.
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:08:05.1 108.35
5.01
00:01:13.1
00:00:00.2
37 82
ITA
Andolfi Fabio / Scattolin S.
Peugeot 208 R2
RC4 00:08:12.1 106.81
5.49
00:01:20.1
00:00:07.0
38 62
FIN
Haapamäki H. / Salminen Marko
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:08:12.9 106.63
5.54
00:01:20.9
00:00:00.8
39 104
ESP
Solans Nil / Ibañez Miquel
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:13.4 106.53
5.58
00:01:21.4
00:00:00.5
40 102
NOR
Aasen Marius / Engan Veronica
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:15.9 105.99
5.75
00:01:23.9
00:00:02.5
41 58
FRA
Folb Terry / Le Floch Franck
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:08:17.6 105.63
5.86
00:01:25.6
00:00:01.7
42 103
FIN
Vatanen Max / Renucci J.
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:19.1 105.31
5.97
00:01:27.1
00:00:01.5
43 60
FRA
Gilbert Quentin / Jamoul Renaud
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:08:19.3 105.27
5.98
00:01:27.3
00:00:00.2
44 63
CHE
Della Casa F. / Pozzi Domenico
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:08:21.4 104.83
6.12
00:01:29.4
00:00:02.1
45 77
ISR
Uger Sergey / Larens Sergei
Mini John Cooper Works S2000
RC2 00:08:21.7 104.76
6.14
00:01:29.7
00:00:00.3
46 80
AND
Carchat Joan / Ribeiro Claudi
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
RC2 00:08:22.6 104.58
6.21
00:01:30.6
00:00:00.9
47 111
NLD
Van Deijne K. / Scholtalbers H.
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:22.7 104.56
6.21
00:01:30.7
00:00:00.1
48 33
ITA
Rendina M. / Inglesi E.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
RC2 00:08:23.3 104.43
6.25
00:01:31.3
00:00:00.6
- 35
BEL
Serderidis J. / Miclotte F.
Citroën DS3 R5
RC2 00:08:23.3 104.43
6.25
00:01:31.3
00:00:00.0
50 109
LBN
Amiouni Nicolas / Matar Joseph
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:23.5 104.39
6.27
00:01:31.5
00:00:00.2
51 106
BEL
De Mévius G. / Jalet Johan
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:24.1 104.27
6.31
00:01:32.1
00:00:00.6
52 114
GBR
Greensmith Gus / Edmondson E.
Ford Fiesta R2T
RC4 00:08:30.9 102.88
6.77
00:01:38.9
00:00:06.8
53 83
ITA
De Tommaso D. / Bosi M.
Peugeot 208 R2
RC4 00:08:40.3 101.02
7.42
00:01:48.3
00:00:09.4
54 55
ARE
Al Mutawaa M. / McAuley Stephen
Citroën DS3 R3T
RC3 00:08:43.7 100.36
7.65
00:01:51.7
00:00:03.4
55 86
POL
Pawliński J. / Bil Bartosz
Subaru Impreza STI
RC2 00:08:49.4 99.28
8.04
00:01:57.4
00:00:05.7
56 78
FRA
Foulon Alain / Delarche Gilles
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
RC2 00:09:01.6 97.05
8.88
00:02:09.6
00:00:12.2
57 87
POL
Mąsior Robert / Cieślar Z.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
RC2 00:09:03.8 96.65
9.03
00:02:11.8
00:00:02.2
Pos. No.
Driver / Co-driver
Vehicle
Pos. SS time
Penalty
Total time Diff.Leader
Diff.Prev.
1 1
FRA

1
Ogier S. / Ingrassia J.
Volkswagen Polo R WRC 
RC1
1
00:13:48.3
00:13:48.3 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 6
EST

4
Tänak Ott / Mõlder Raigo
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
RC1
2
00:13:53.7
00:13:53.7 00:00:05.4
00:00:05.4
3 9
NOR

2
Mikkelsen A. / Fløene Ola
Volkswagen Polo R WRC 
RC1
3
00:13:54.6
00:13:54.6 00:00:06.3
00:00:00.9
4 3
GBR

6
Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul
Citroën DS3 WRC 
RC1
4
00:14:06.6
00:14:06.6 00:00:18.3
00:00:12.0
5 20
NZL

5
Paddon Hayden / Kennard John
Hyundai i20 WRC 
RC1
5
00:14:07.2
00:14:07.2 00:00:18.9
00:00:00.6
6 4
NOR

7
Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas
Citroën DS3 WRC 
RC1
6
00:14:10.5
00:14:10.5 00:00:22.2
00:00:03.3
7 7
BEL

11
Neuville T. / Gilsoul Nicolas
Hyundai i20 WRC 
RC1
7
00:14:17.7
00:14:17.7 00:00:29.4
00:00:07.2
8 8
ESP

10
Sordo Dani / Martí Marc
Hyundai i20 WRC 
RC1
8
00:14:19.6
00:14:19.6 00:00:31.3
00:00:01.9
9 14
POL

9
Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak M.
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
RC1
9
00:14:27.4
00:14:27.4 00:00:39.1
00:00:07.8
10 21
CZE

12
Prokop Martin / Tománek Jan
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
RC1
10
00:14:30.5
00:14:30.5 00:00:42.2
00:00:03.1
11 10
NLD

13
Abbring Kevin / Marshall S.
Hyundai i20 WRC 
RC1
11
00:14:35.6
00:14:35.6 00:00:47.3
00:00:05.1
12 37
ITA

16
Bertelli L. / Granai Lorenzo
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
RC1
12
00:14:43.8
00:14:43.8 00:00:55.5
00:00:08.2
13 43
FIN

17
Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne
Škoda Fabia R5 
RC2
1
00:14:46.0
00:14:46.0 00:00:57.7
00:00:02.2
14 36
EST

14
Kruuda Karl / Järveoja M.
Citroën DS3 R5 
RC2
2
00:14:47.1
00:14:47.1 00:00:58.8
00:00:01.1
15 2
FIN

3
Latvala J. / Anttila Miikka
Volkswagen Polo R WRC 
RC1
13
00:14:13.9
00:00:40.0
00:14:53.9 00:01:05.6
00:00:06.8
16 45
FRA

20
Maurin Julien / Klinger Nicolas
Ford Fiesta S2000 
RC2
3
00:14:59.2
00:14:59.2 00:01:10.9
00:00:05.3
17 40
SWE

19
Tidemand Pontus / Axelsson Emil
Škoda Fabia R5 
RC2
4
00:15:04.4
00:15:04.4 00:01:16.1
00:00:05.2
18 38
FIN

22
Ketomaa Jari / Lindström Kaj
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
5
00:15:04.8
00:15:04.8 00:01:16.5
00:00:00.4
19 44
DEU

23
Kremer Armin / Winklhofer P.
Škoda Fabia R5 
RC2
6
00:15:05.1
00:15:05.1 00:01:16.8
00:00:00.3
20 69
SVK

18
Koči Martin / Kostka Lukáš
Peugeot 208 T16 
RC2
7
00:15:07.3
00:15:07.3 00:01:19.0
00:00:02.2
21 76
FIN

24
Suninen Teemu / Markkula Mikko
Škoda Fabia S2000 
RC2
8
00:15:07.8
00:15:07.8 00:01:19.5
00:00:00.5
22 41
PER

26
Fuchs Nicolás / Mussano F.
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
9
00:15:07.8
00:15:07.8 00:01:19.5
00:00:00.0
23 84
POL

25
Oleksowicz M. / Kuśnierz M.
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
10
00:15:15.4
00:15:15.4 00:01:27.1
00:00:07.6
24 72
AUS

21
Pedder Scott / Moscatt Dale
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
11
00:15:32.1
00:15:32.1 00:01:43.8
00:00:16.7
25 50
POL

28
Kołtun J. / Pleskot I.
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
12
00:15:41.1
00:15:41.1 00:01:52.8
00:00:09.0
26 74
POL

27
Ptaszek Hubert / Kozdroń Kamil
Ford Fiesta S2000 
RC2
13
00:15:46.1
00:15:46.1 00:01:57.8
00:00:05.0
27 48
EST

15
Pärn Sander / Morgan James
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
14
00:14:48.3
00:01:00.0
00:15:48.3 00:02:00.0
00:00:02.2
28 70
CHL

29
Torres Fuentes R. / Vazquez Liste D.
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
15
00:15:50.5
00:15:50.5 00:02:02.2
00:00:02.2
29 64
GBR

30
Pryce Osian / Furniss Dale
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
1
00:15:57.2
00:15:57.2 00:02:08.9
00:00:06.7
30 68
FRA

35
Margaillan M. / Gordon Fabrice
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
2
00:16:08.5
00:16:08.5 00:02:20.2
00:00:11.3
31 52
ROU

33
Tempestini S. / Chiarcossi M.
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
3
00:16:09.4
00:16:09.4 00:02:21.1
00:00:00.9
32 85
POL

34
Oleksowicz K. / Sadowski S.
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
16
00:16:13.0
00:16:13.0 00:02:24.7
00:00:03.6
33 81
ITA

42
Crugnola Andrea / Ferrara Michele
Renault Clio R3T 
RC3
4
00:16:17.9
00:16:17.9 00:02:29.6
00:00:04.9
34 62
FIN

32
Haapamäki H. / Salminen Marko
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
5
00:16:18.7
00:16:18.7 00:02:30.4
00:00:00.8
35 60
FRA

31
Gilbert Quentin / Jamoul Renaud
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
6
00:16:23.4
00:16:23.4 00:02:35.1
00:00:04.7
36 101
GBR

41
Cave Tom / Parry Craig
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
1
00:16:24.1
00:16:24.1 00:02:35.8
00:00:00.7
37 104
ESP

39
Solans Nil / Ibañez Miquel
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
2
00:16:28.8
00:16:28.8 00:02:40.5
00:00:04.7
38 58
FRA

37
Folb Terry / Le Floch Franck
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
7
00:16:31.0
00:16:31.0 00:02:42.7
00:00:02.2
39 102
NOR

38
Aasen Marius / Engan Veronica
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
3
00:16:31.2
00:16:31.2 00:02:42.9
00:00:00.2
40 82
ITA

43
Andolfi Fabio / Scattolin S.
Peugeot 208 R2 
RC4
4
00:16:33.9
00:16:33.9 00:02:45.6
00:00:02.7
41 103
FIN

40
Vatanen Max / Renucci J.
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
5
00:16:37.1
00:16:37.1 00:02:48.8
00:00:03.2
42 33
ITA

44
Rendina M. / Inglesi E.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
RC2
17
00:16:46.3
00:16:46.3 00:02:58.0
00:00:09.2
43 77
ISR

46
Uger Sergey / Larens Sergei
Mini John Cooper Works S2000 
RC2
18
00:16:46.9
00:16:46.9 00:02:58.6
00:00:00.6
44 109
LBN

45
Amiouni Nicolas / Matar Joseph
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
6
00:16:47.4
00:16:47.4 00:02:59.1
00:00:00.5
45 111
NLD

47
Van Deijne K. / Scholtalbers H.
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
7
00:16:48.6
00:16:48.6 00:03:00.3
00:00:01.2
46 80
AND

48
Carchat Joan / Ribeiro Claudi
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
RC2
19
00:16:48.7
00:16:48.7 00:03:00.4
00:00:00.1
47 63
CHE

50
Della Casa F. / Pozzi Domenico
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
8
00:16:53.3
00:16:53.3 00:03:05.0
00:00:04.6
48 106
BEL

49
De Mévius G. / Jalet Johan
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
8
00:16:55.2
00:16:55.2 00:03:06.9
00:00:01.9
49 49
POL

57
Hołowczyc K. / Kurzeja Łukasz
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
20
00:16:56.6
00:16:56.6 00:03:08.3
00:00:01.4
50 35
BEL

53
Serderidis J. / Miclotte F.
Citroën DS3 R5 
RC2
21
00:16:58.7
00:16:58.7 00:03:10.4
00:00:02.1
51 114
GBR

51
Greensmith Gus / Edmondson E.
Ford Fiesta R2T 
RC4
9
00:17:03.1
00:17:03.1 00:03:14.8
00:00:04.4
52 83
ITA

52
De Tommaso D. / Bosi M.
Peugeot 208 R2 
RC4
10
00:17:13.7
00:17:13.7 00:03:25.4
00:00:10.6
53 86
POL

54
Pawliński J. / Bil Bartosz
Subaru Impreza STI 
RC2
22
00:17:34.7
00:17:34.7 00:03:46.4
00:00:21.0
54 55
ARE

55
Al Mutawaa M. / McAuley Stephen
Citroën DS3 R3T 
RC3
9
00:17:36.3
00:17:36.3 00:03:48.0
00:00:01.6
55 87
POL

58
Mąsior Robert / Cieślar Z.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX 
RC2
23
00:18:19.5
00:18:19.5 00:04:31.2
00:00:43.2
56 78
FRA

56
Foulon Alain / Delarche Gilles
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
RC2
24
00:17:59.6
00:01:10.0
00:19:09.6 00:05:21.3
00:00:50.1
INFORMATION ABOUT SS 19
retired (5 - Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel): retired after SS 19
flash info (64 - Pryce Osian / Furniss Dale): The car was still not right. There was a spot in the middle of the last stage where it was missing a bit. We were not sure what to do.
flash info (52 - Tempestini Simone / Chiarcossi Matteo): I enjoy a lot. I love the Poland stage. I just needed to keep the concentration.
flash info (36 - Kruuda Karl / Järveoja Martin): It was a strong weekend. If you compare with the WRCs we didn a good job with a weaker car. Without the puncture it would have been more interesting.
flash info (40 - Tidemand Pontus / Axelsson Emil): First and second for Skoda and that is perfect. We had a good speed. If we are in good shape, then we will do our best in Finland.
flash info (43 - Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne): I cannot be more satisfied. We only had to push on Friday, and from then on just controlling. We made good pace notes and thanks to the team - the car was perfect.
flash info (37 - Bertelli Lorenzo / Granai Lorenzo): I think we learned a lot - and there's more to come. We will try to do more in Finland. No Rally 2 this time. This is only the beginning.
flash info (1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): This year we had so many great win, no one wanted to help us on Saturday. Great achievement and happy to win this one. Still you see it on Sunday, I don’t have to push so much to have the best time. I am so happy with this victory, we have to push from the first to the last.
flash info (9 - Mikkelsen Andreas / Fløene Ola): We are more close than ever, Sweden was a great result, but it was a home rally. This was probably my best rally.
flash info (6 - Tänak Ott / Mõlder Raigo): I pushed hard… I am so happy for the team, they have done so much. I am so happy. Now we are starting to prove ourself, it means so much to me. I really don’t have any words. I am really happy we had the speed. It means a lot for us, we have done a big job, but we still have to keep working.
flash info (2 - Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka): After one left hander, I went too fast into the corner and we hit a tree. The radiator is broken and we have to get to the finish.
(2 - Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka): was out of the road and hit a tree
flash info (20 - Paddon Hayden / Kennard John): It’s not a podium, but it is as good a result as it in Sardinia. We are close to the top.
flash info (7 - Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas): I was surprised this morning, otherwise good weekend, we did a good job, but we make some mistakes with the tyre choice. We have felt much more comfortable (in the car). Now we have to be better on tyres choices and we will be back soon.
flash info (14 - Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak Maciej): It has been disappointing, we hit the rock on the straight line, could not do anything. It has been good weekend for us, a bit unlucky on the last stage. We came here realistically that we finish between 8 and 10, we finish between 6 and 8.
(14 - Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak Maciej): puncture
flash info (3 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): It’s difficult, our weekend was over before it was started. If you cannot find that pure commitment on these roads, you are lost. We put this one in the bank and move onto the next one.
flash info (4 - Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas): It's been a struggle, the times have been quite good, but we're looking to Finland.
flash info (8 - Sordo Dani / Martí Marc): Not many positives here, not a very good rally for us. Too cautious with the pacenotes.
flash info (21 - Prokop Martin / Tománek Jan): Some good moments, but some bad too. Real bad at the beginning. We have to work.
flash info (5 - Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel): This was a difficult weekend for us, not easy, we'll be on it in Finland!