31. Int. Jänner Rallye 2014

31. Int. Jänner Rallye 2014


03. 01. 2014 - 05. 01. 2014

Résultats officieux
Liste par catégorie: Tous
ES 8 - Schönau - St. Leonhard 1
Extension ES: 22.93km

Progrès ES

Pos. Non. Pilote / Copilote
Véhicule		 Groupe Temps ES Vitesse moyenne
sec/km		 Diff. Premier
Diff. Précédent
1 1
POL 		Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak M.
Ford Fiesta RRC		 RC2 00:13:25.9 102.43
0.00		 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 5
CZE 		Pech Václav / Uhel Petr
Mini John Cooper Works S2000		 RC2 00:13:27.6 102.21
0.07		 00:00:01.7
00:00:01.7
3 6
AUT 		Baumschlager R. / Wicha Klaus
Škoda Fabia S2000		 RC2 00:13:34.2 101.39
0.36		 00:00:08.3
00:00:06.6
4 2
AUT 		Aigner Andreas / Watzl Barbara
Peugeot 207 S2000		 RC2 00:13:43.6 100.23
0.77		 00:00:17.7
00:00:09.4
5 3
LVA 		Gryazin Vasily / Chumak Dmitry
Ford Fiesta S2000		 RC2 00:13:59.4 98.34
1.46		 00:00:33.5
00:00:15.8
- 20
CZE 		Tarabus J. / Trunkát Daniel
Škoda Fabia S2000		 RC2 00:13:59.4 98.34
1.46		 00:00:33.5
00:00:00.0
7 12
AUT 		Harrach Beppo / Welsersheimb P.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4		 RC2 00:13:59.6 98.32
1.47		 00:00:33.7
00:00:00.2
8 16
CZE 		Odložilík R. / Tureček Martin
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:14:11.4 96.96
1.98		 00:00:45.5
00:00:11.8
9 21
AUT 		Neubauer H. / Ettel Bernhard
Subaru Impreza Sti R4		 RC2 00:14:18.8 96.12
2.31		 00:00:52.9
00:00:07.4
10 23
HUN 		Érdi T. / Zsiros Gábor
Subaru Impreza Sti R4		 RC2 00:14:46.7 93.10
3.52		 00:01:20.8
00:00:27.9
11 14
FRA 		Consani Robert / Landais Vincent
Peugeot 207 S2000		 RC2 00:14:52.1 92.53
3.76		 00:01:26.2
00:00:05.4
12 9
CZE 		Tlusťák A. / Kučera L.
Škoda Fabia S2000		 RC2 00:14:53.4 92.40
3.82		 00:01:27.5
00:00:01.3
13 60
AUT 		Grössing G. / Schwarz S.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4		 15 00:14:57.3 92.00
3.99		 00:01:31.4
00:00:03.9
14 27
AUT 		Haneder Ernst / Ertl Daniela
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX		 RC2 00:14:57.9 91.93
4.01		 00:01:32.0
00:00:00.6
15 32
AUT 		Keferböck J. / Gründlinger H.
Peugeot 207 S2000		 RC2 00:15:03.5 91.36
4.26		 00:01:37.6
00:00:05.6
16 33
AUT 		Klepatsch Mario / Birklbauer C.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX		 RC2 00:15:10.9 90.62
4.58		 00:01:45.0
00:00:07.4
17 28
CZE 		Hudec Martin / Picka Petr
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX		 RC2 00:15:16.2 90.10
4.81		 00:01:50.3
00:00:05.3
18 19
FRA 		Raoux J. / De Castelli S.
Peugeot 207 S2000		 RC2 00:15:21.9 89.54
5.06		 00:01:56.0
00:00:05.7
19 62
AUT 		Neulinger R. / Pötscher M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI		 12.2 00:15:31.5 88.62
5.48		 00:02:05.6
00:00:09.6
20 40
AUT 		Böhm Michael / Becker Katrin
Suzuki Swift S1600		 RC3 00:15:33.4 88.44
5.56		 00:02:07.5
00:00:01.9
21 26
CZE 		Tuček Marcel / Dufek Petr
Subaru Impreza STI		 RC2 00:15:45.0 87.35
6.07		 00:02:19.1
00:00:11.6
22 61
AUT 		Zitta Robert / Stemp Peter
Subaru Impreza STI		 12.2 00:15:47.9 87.09
6.19		 00:02:22.0
00:00:02.9
23 41
CZE 		Peták Josef / Benešová A.
Renault Clio R3		 RC3 00:15:55.5 86.39
6.52		 00:02:29.6
00:00:07.6
24 65
AUT 		Rigler Gerald / Rossgatterer M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III		 12.2 00:15:59.5 86.03
6.70		 00:02:33.6
00:00:04.0
25 35
AUT 		Riegler C. / Puntschart W.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX		 RC2 00:16:01.7 85.84
6.79		 00:02:35.8
00:00:02.2
26 76
ITA 		De Luna Andrea / Rossetto Marika
Renault Clio Williams		 12.1 00:16:19.2 84.30
7.56		 00:02:53.3
00:00:17.5
27 42
DEU 		Ihle W. / Herbold Felix
Citroën DS3 R3T		 RC3 00:16:33.0 83.13
8.16		 00:03:07.1
00:00:13.8
28 52
CZE 		Bisaha Ondřej / Píža Petr
Citroën C2 R2 Max		 RC4 00:16:33.4 83.10
8.18		 00:03:07.5
00:00:00.4
29 55
DEU 		Tannert Julius / Thielen J.
Citroën DS3 R1		 RC5 00:16:33.8 83.06
8.19		 00:03:07.9
00:00:00.4
30 67
AUT 		Mitterlehner C. / Kastner C.
Audi Coupe S2		 12.2 00:16:58.2 81.07
9.26		 00:03:32.3
00:00:24.4
31 51
POL 		Ogryzek S. / Mirek Szczepan
Citroën C2 R2 Max		 RC4 00:16:59.9 80.94
9.33		 00:03:34.0
00:00:01.7
32 75
AUT 		Stütz Ulrich / Holzer Lukas
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III		 12.2 00:17:01.2 80.83
9.39		 00:03:35.3
00:00:01.3
33 89
AUT 		Klopf Mario / Schweiger T.
Ford Escort RS 2000		 14 00:17:03.4 80.66
9.49		 00:03:37.5
00:00:02.2
34 63
AUT 		Desl Martin / Gimpl Sabrina
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII		 12.2 00:17:03.6 80.64
9.49		 00:03:37.7
00:00:00.2
35 53
ITA 		Blanc Marco / Mometti Roberto
Peugeot 208 R2		 RC4 00:17:03.9 80.62
9.51		 00:03:38.0
00:00:00.3
36 69
DEU 		Feuchtner M. / Hechinger Anja
Subaru Impreza STI		 12.2 00:17:10.3 80.12
9.79		 00:03:44.4
00:00:06.4
37 44
CZE 		Daňhelová M. / Daňhel V.
Renault Clio Sport		 RC3 00:17:11.6 80.02
9.84		 00:03:45.7
00:00:01.3
38 78
AUT 		Hinterreiter M. / Hinterreiter C.
Mercedes-Benz 190 E		 12.1 00:17:13.0 79.91
9.90		 00:03:47.1
00:00:01.4
39 43
HUN 		Klausz Kristóf / Kecskeméti B.
Renault Clio R3		 RC3 00:17:22.4 79.19
10.31		 00:03:56.5
00:00:09.4
40 80
AUT 		Königsecker R. / Höllwirth H.
Mazda 323 GT-R		 12.2 00:17:24.8 79.01
10.42		 00:03:58.9
00:00:02.4
41 77
AUT 		Weber Christoph / Langthaler S.
Volkswagen Golf III Kit Car		 12.1 00:17:25.3 78.97
10.44		 00:03:59.4
00:00:00.5
42 72
AUT 		Glaser Alfred / Faltin Richard
Lancia Delta HF Integrale		 12.2 00:17:39.7 77.90
11.07		 00:04:13.8
00:00:14.4
43 46
CZE 		Pondělíček L. / Perski Eduard
Citroën C2 R2 Max		 RC4 00:17:42.6 77.68
11.19		 00:04:16.7
00:00:02.9
44 79
DEU 		Scheidhammer A. / Regner August
Opel Corsa OPC		 11 00:17:46.4 77.41
11.36		 00:04:20.5
00:00:03.8
45 81
AUT 		Stürmer Horst / Zauner Rene
Audi Coupe Quattro		 12.2 00:17:47.2 77.35
11.40		 00:04:21.3
00:00:00.8
46 91
AUT 		Wimmer Wolfgang / Gallistl M.
Mazda 323 GT-R		 12.2 00:17:52.3 76.98
11.62		 00:04:26.4
00:00:05.1
47 66
DEU 		Schmitt Felix / Seifried Markus
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI		 12.2 00:17:53.6 76.89
11.67		 00:04:27.7
00:00:01.3
48 71
AUT 		Manzenreiter K. / Perneder G.
Audi Coupe S2		 12.2 00:17:54.8 76.80
11.73		 00:04:28.9
00:00:01.2
49 87
AUT 		Raab Karl / Fürntratt M.
BMW 2002 TI		 14 00:17:59.3 76.48
11.92		 00:04:33.4
00:00:04.5
50 50
BGR 		Stratieva E. / Bashkehayov A.
Citroën C2 R2 Max		 RC4 00:18:00.6 76.39
11.98		 00:04:34.7
00:00:01.3
51 70
AUT 		Berlesreiter J. / Pirkelbauer M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III		 12.2 00:18:07.6 75.90
12.29		 00:04:41.7
00:00:07.0
52 45
POL 		Sikorski G. / Jurgała M.
Ford Fiesta ST		 RC4 00:18:22.8 74.85
12.95		 00:04:56.9
00:00:15.2
53 84
ITA 		Valinotti Carlo / Antonucci H.
Mazda 323 GT-R		 12.2 00:18:24.1 74.76
13.00		 00:04:58.2
00:00:01.3
54 49
ITA 		Montagna F. / Montagna A.
Citroën C2 R2 Max		 RC4 00:18:27.2 74.56
13.14		 00:05:01.3
00:00:03.1
55 95
AUT 		Paireder Franz / Pilz Michael
Seat Ibiza Cupra		 12.1 00:18:42.1 73.57
13.79		 00:05:16.2
00:00:14.9
56 88
AUT 		Schmalzer Mario / Foißner M.
Opel Kadett Coupe		 14 00:18:54.7 72.75
14.34		 00:05:28.8
00:00:12.6
57 18
HUN 		Lukács Kornél / Mesterházi M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4		 RC2 00:19:02.1 72.28
14.66		 00:05:36.2
00:00:07.4
58 90
AUT 		Pilz Jürgen / Freudenthaler M.
Mazda 323 GT-R		 12.2 00:19:10.5 71.75
15.03		 00:05:44.6
00:00:08.4
59 92
AUT 		Mosburger T. / Hojas Viktoria
Opel Corsa OPC		 15 00:19:47.7 69.50
16.65		 00:06:21.8
00:00:37.2
60 86
AUT 		Jensch Bernhard / Platzer Andreas
BMW 2002 TI		 14 00:19:49.0 69.43
16.71		 00:06:23.1
00:00:01.3
61 94
ITA 		Polato Andrea / Gabriele Andrea
Nissan Micra		 12.1 00:21:07.3 65.14
20.12		 00:07:41.4
00:01:18.3
62 68
AUT 		Traxl Mario / Etzlsdorfer H.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III		 12.2 00:23:51.7 57.66
27.29		 00:10:25.8
00:02:44.4
Pos. Non.
Pilote / Copilote
Véhicule		 Pos. Temps ES
Penalités		 Temps total Diff. Premier
Diff. Précédent
1 5
CZE
2		 Pech Václav / Uhel Petr
Mini John Cooper Works S2000  		RC2
1		 01:06:38.3
 01:06:38.3 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 1
POL
3		 Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak M.
Ford Fiesta RRC  		RC2
2		 01:06:41.2
 01:06:41.2 00:00:02.9
00:00:02.9
3 6
AUT
1		 Baumschlager R. / Wicha Klaus
Škoda Fabia S2000  		RC2
3		 01:06:31.7
00:00:10.0		 01:06:41.7 00:00:03.4
00:00:00.5
4 20
CZE
4		 Tarabus J. / Trunkát Daniel
Škoda Fabia S2000  		RC2
4		 01:07:59.9
 01:07:59.9 00:01:21.6
00:01:18.2
5 12
AUT
5		 Harrach Beppo / Welsersheimb P.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4  		RC2
5		 01:08:17.2
 01:08:17.2 00:01:38.9
00:00:17.3
6 2
AUT
7		 Aigner Andreas / Watzl Barbara
Peugeot 207 S2000  		RC2
6		 01:08:37.9
 01:08:37.9 00:01:59.6
00:00:20.7
7 3
LVA
6		 Gryazin Vasily / Chumak Dmitry
Ford Fiesta S2000  		RC2
7		 01:08:40.4
 01:08:40.4 00:02:02.1
00:00:02.5
8 16
CZE
10		 Odložilík R. / Tureček Martin
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
8		 01:09:45.1
 01:09:45.1 00:03:06.8
00:01:04.7
9 21
AUT
9		 Neubauer H. / Ettel Bernhard
Subaru Impreza Sti R4  		RC2
9		 01:09:49.5
 01:09:49.5 00:03:11.2
00:00:04.4
10 14
FRA
11		 Consani Robert / Landais Vincent
Peugeot 207 S2000  		RC2
10		 01:10:43.4
 01:10:43.4 00:04:05.1
00:00:53.9
11 60
AUT
12		 Grössing G. / Schwarz S.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4  		15
1		 01:10:58.4
 01:10:58.4 00:04:20.1
00:00:15.0
12 27
AUT
13		 Haneder Ernst / Ertl Daniela
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX  		RC2
11		 01:12:04.5
 01:12:04.5 00:05:26.2
00:01:06.1
13 33
AUT
15		 Klepatsch Mario / Birklbauer C.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX  		RC2
12		 01:12:30.6
 01:12:30.6 00:05:52.3
00:00:26.1
14 23
HUN
18		 Érdi T. / Zsiros Gábor
Subaru Impreza Sti R4  		RC2
13		 01:12:31.5
 01:12:31.5 00:05:53.2
00:00:00.9
15 32
AUT
17		 Keferböck J. / Gründlinger H.
Peugeot 207 S2000  		RC2
14		 01:12:44.3
 01:12:44.3 00:06:06.0
00:00:12.8
16 62
AUT
14		 Neulinger R. / Pötscher M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI  		12.2
1		 01:12:46.3
 01:12:46.3 00:06:08.0
00:00:02.0
17 9
CZE
19		 Tlusťák A. / Kučera L.
Škoda Fabia S2000  		RC2
15		 01:13:09.0
 01:13:09.0 00:06:30.7
00:00:22.7
18 28
CZE
20		 Hudec Martin / Picka Petr
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX  		RC2
16		 01:13:52.3
 01:13:52.3 00:07:14.0
00:00:43.3
19 19
FRA
22		 Raoux J. / De Castelli S.
Peugeot 207 S2000  		RC2
17		 01:14:16.7
 01:14:16.7 00:07:38.4
00:00:24.4
20 65
AUT
21		 Rigler Gerald / Rossgatterer M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III  		12.2
2		 01:14:53.2
 01:14:53.2 00:08:14.9
00:00:36.5
21 61
AUT
23		 Zitta Robert / Stemp Peter
Subaru Impreza STI  		12.2
3		 01:15:00.6
 01:15:00.6 00:08:22.3
00:00:07.4
22 40
AUT
25		 Böhm Michael / Becker Katrin
Suzuki Swift S1600  		RC3
1		 01:15:16.2
 01:15:16.2 00:08:37.9
00:00:15.6
23 26
CZE
27		 Tuček Marcel / Dufek Petr
Subaru Impreza STI  		RC2
18		 01:15:36.3
 01:15:36.3 00:08:58.0
00:00:20.1
24 41
CZE
29		 Peták Josef / Benešová A.
Renault Clio R3  		RC3
2		 01:16:06.7
 01:16:06.7 00:09:28.4
00:00:30.4
25 67
AUT
24		 Mitterlehner C. / Kastner C.
Audi Coupe S2  		12.2
4		 01:16:13.7
 01:16:13.7 00:09:35.4
00:00:07.0
26 35
AUT
30		 Riegler C. / Puntschart W.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX  		RC2
19		 01:16:16.6
 01:16:16.6 00:09:38.3
00:00:02.9
27 76
ITA
28		 De Luna Andrea / Rossetto Marika
Renault Clio Williams  		12.1
1		 01:16:25.0
 01:16:25.0 00:09:46.7
00:00:08.4
28 18
HUN
16		 Lukács Kornél / Mesterházi M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4  		RC2
20		 01:16:34.7
 01:16:34.7 00:09:56.4
00:00:09.7
29 63
AUT
26		 Desl Martin / Gimpl Sabrina
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII  		12.2
5		 01:16:49.1
 01:16:49.1 00:10:10.8
00:00:14.4
30 75
AUT
32		 Stütz Ulrich / Holzer Lukas
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III  		12.2
6		 01:17:39.4
 01:17:39.4 00:11:01.1
00:00:50.3
31 80
AUT
33		 Königsecker R. / Höllwirth H.
Mazda 323 GT-R  		12.2
7		 01:19:06.3
 01:19:06.3 00:12:28.0
00:01:26.9
32 51
POL
34		 Ogryzek S. / Mirek Szczepan
Citroën C2 R2 Max  		RC4
1		 01:19:29.4
 01:19:29.4 00:12:51.1
00:00:23.1
33 69
DEU
35		 Feuchtner M. / Hechinger Anja
Subaru Impreza STI  		12.2
8		 01:19:46.3
00:00:10.0		 01:19:56.3 00:13:18.0
00:00:26.9
34 53
ITA
37		 Blanc Marco / Mometti Roberto
Peugeot 208 R2  		RC4
2		 01:20:34.1
 01:20:34.1 00:13:55.8
00:00:37.8
35 89
AUT
38		 Klopf Mario / Schweiger T.
Ford Escort RS 2000  		14
1		 01:20:34.7
 01:20:34.7 00:13:56.4
00:00:00.6
36 55
DEU
40		 Tannert Julius / Thielen J.
Citroën DS3 R1  		RC5
1		 01:20:40.3
 01:20:40.3 00:14:02.0
00:00:05.6
37 77
AUT
36		 Weber Christoph / Langthaler S.
Volkswagen Golf III Kit Car  		12.1
2		 01:20:42.2
00:00:10.0		 01:20:52.2 00:14:13.9
00:00:11.9
38 46
CZE
39		 Pondělíček L. / Perski Eduard
Citroën C2 R2 Max  		RC4
3		 01:21:33.8
 01:21:33.8 00:14:55.5
00:00:41.6
39 78
AUT
44		 Hinterreiter M. / Hinterreiter C.
Mercedes-Benz 190 E  		12.1
3		 01:21:45.4
 01:21:45.4 00:15:07.1
00:00:11.6
40 79
DEU
43		 Scheidhammer A. / Regner August
Opel Corsa OPC  		11
1		 01:22:05.0
 01:22:05.0 00:15:26.7
00:00:19.6
41 91
AUT
42		 Wimmer Wolfgang / Gallistl M.
Mazda 323 GT-R  		12.2
9		 01:22:06.8
 01:22:06.8 00:15:28.5
00:00:01.8
42 70
AUT
41		 Berlesreiter J. / Pirkelbauer M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III  		12.2
10		 01:22:20.3
 01:22:20.3 00:15:42.0
00:00:13.5
43 42
DEU
49		 Ihle W. / Herbold Felix
Citroën DS3 R3T  		RC3
3		 01:22:33.6
 01:22:33.6 00:15:55.3
00:00:13.3
44 71
AUT
45		 Manzenreiter K. / Perneder G.
Audi Coupe S2  		12.2
11		 01:22:45.4
 01:22:45.4 00:16:07.1
00:00:11.8
45 81
AUT
46		 Stürmer Horst / Zauner Rene
Audi Coupe Quattro  		12.2
12		 01:22:48.8
 01:22:48.8 00:16:10.5
00:00:03.4
46 87
AUT
48		 Raab Karl / Fürntratt M.
BMW 2002 TI  		14
2		 01:23:15.1
 01:23:15.1 00:16:36.8
00:00:26.3
47 43
HUN
50		 Klausz Kristóf / Kecskeméti B.
Renault Clio R3  		RC3
4		 01:23:26.3
 01:23:26.3 00:16:48.0
00:00:11.2
48 52
CZE
47		 Bisaha Ondřej / Píža Petr
Citroën C2 R2 Max  		RC4
4		 01:21:35.9
00:02:00.0		 01:23:35.9 00:16:57.6
00:00:09.6
49 68
AUT
31		 Traxl Mario / Etzlsdorfer H.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III  		12.2
13		 01:24:09.5
 01:24:09.5 00:17:31.2
00:00:33.6
50 45
POL
51		 Sikorski G. / Jurgała M.
Ford Fiesta ST  		RC4
5		 01:25:06.1
 01:25:06.1 00:18:27.8
00:00:56.6
51 44
CZE
55		 Daňhelová M. / Daňhel V.
Renault Clio Sport  		RC3
5		 01:25:14.3
 01:25:14.3 00:18:36.0
00:00:08.2
52 66
DEU
52		 Schmitt Felix / Seifried Markus
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI  		12.2
14		 01:23:34.0
00:02:00.0		 01:25:34.0 00:18:55.7
00:00:19.7
53 88
AUT
53		 Schmalzer Mario / Foißner M.
Opel Kadett Coupe  		14
3		 01:26:36.6
 01:26:36.6 00:19:58.3
00:01:02.6
54 95
AUT
54		 Paireder Franz / Pilz Michael
Seat Ibiza Cupra  		12.1
4		 01:26:40.3
 01:26:40.3 00:20:02.0
00:00:03.7
55 50
BGR
57		 Stratieva E. / Bashkehayov A.
Citroën C2 R2 Max  		RC4
6		 01:26:56.5
 01:26:56.5 00:20:18.2
00:00:16.2
56 49
ITA
56		 Montagna F. / Montagna A.
Citroën C2 R2 Max  		RC4
7		 01:27:21.5
 01:27:21.5 00:20:43.2
00:00:25.0
57 72
AUT
59		 Glaser Alfred / Faltin Richard
Lancia Delta HF Integrale  		12.2
15		 01:27:50.4
 01:27:50.4 00:21:12.1
00:00:28.9
58 90
AUT
58		 Pilz Jürgen / Freudenthaler M.
Mazda 323 GT-R  		12.2
16		 01:28:40.3
 01:28:40.3 00:22:02.0
00:00:49.9
59 92
AUT
60		 Mosburger T. / Hojas Viktoria
Opel Corsa OPC  		15
2		 01:31:21.9
 01:31:21.9 00:24:43.6
00:02:41.6
60 86
AUT
61		 Jensch Bernhard / Platzer Andreas
BMW 2002 TI  		14
4		 01:29:31.4
00:02:20.0		 01:31:51.4 00:25:13.1
00:00:29.5
61 94
ITA
62		 Polato Andrea / Gabriele Andrea
Nissan Micra  		12.1
5		 01:36:25.7
 01:36:25.7 00:29:47.4
00:04:34.3
62 84
ITA
63		 Valinotti Carlo / Antonucci H.
Mazda 323 GT-R  		12.2
17		 01:36:59.0
 01:36:59.0 00:30:20.7
00:00:33.3
Information de la ES 8
retired (53 - Blanc Marco / Mometti Roberto): technical problem - engine after SS 8
(18 - Lukács Kornél / Mesterházi Márk): had technical problem
retired (11 - Černý Jan / Kohout Pavel): technical problem - engine in SS 8