Neste Rally Finland 2017

Neste Rally Finland 2017


27. 07. 2017 - 30. 07. 2017

Unofficial results
List for category: All
SS 15 - Päijälä 1
SS length: 22.68km
Pos. No. Driver / Co-driver
Vehicle		 Group SS time Aver. speed
sec/km		 Diff.Leader
Diff.Prev.
1 10
FIN 		Latvala J. / Anttila Miikka
Toyota Yaris WRC		 RC1 00:10:55.5 124.56
0.00		 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 3
GBR 		Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel
Ford Fiesta WRC		 RC1 00:10:59.2 123.86
0.16		 00:00:03.7
00:00:03.7
3 12
FIN 		Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne
Toyota Yaris WRC		 RC1 00:11:00.9 123.54
0.24		 00:00:05.4
00:00:01.7
4 11
FIN 		Hänninen Juho / Lindström Kaj
Toyota Yaris WRC		 RC1 00:11:02.0 123.34
0.29		 00:00:06.5
00:00:01.1
5 15
FIN 		Suninen Teemu / Markkula Mikko
Ford Fiesta WRC		 RC1 00:11:02.2 123.30
0.30		 00:00:06.7
00:00:00.2
6 2
EST 		Tänak Ott / Järveoja M.
Ford Fiesta WRC		 RC1 00:11:03.0 123.15
0.33		 00:00:07.5
00:00:00.8
7 14
NOR 		Østberg Mads / Eriksen T.
Ford Fiesta WRC		 RC1 00:11:04.8 122.82
0.41		 00:00:09.3
00:00:01.8
8 7
GBR 		Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul
Citroën C3 WRC		 RC1 00:11:05.2 122.74
0.43		 00:00:09.7
00:00:00.4
9 5
BEL 		Neuville T. / Gilsoul Nicolas
Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC		 RC1 00:11:08.1 122.21
0.56		 00:00:12.6
00:00:02.9
10 9
IRL 		Breen Craig / Martin Scott
Citroën C3 WRC		 RC1 00:11:12.5 121.41
0.75		 00:00:17.0
00:00:04.4
11 6
ESP 		Sordo Dani / Martí Marc
Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC		 RC1 00:11:21.0 119.89
1.12		 00:00:25.5
00:00:08.5
12 40
FIN 		Huttunen Jari / Linnaketo Antti
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:11:39.8 116.67
1.95		 00:00:44.3
00:00:18.8
13 34
GBR 		Greensmith Gus / Parry Craig
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:11:46.5 115.57
2.25		 00:00:51.0
00:00:06.7
14 33
FRA 		Loubet P. / Landais Vincent
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:11:50.6 114.90
2.43		 00:00:55.1
00:00:04.1
15 72
FIN 		Asunmaa Teemu / Halttunen Jonne
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:11:51.1 114.82
2.45		 00:00:55.6
00:00:00.5
16 36
FRA 		Gilbert Quentin / Jamoul Renaud
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:11:53.4 114.45
2.55		 00:00:57.9
00:00:02.3
17 71
FRA 		Camilli Eric / Veillas B.
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:11:53.6 114.42
2.56		 00:00:58.1
00:00:00.2
18 42
GBR 		Cave Tom / Morgan James
Hyundai i20 R5		 RC2 00:11:54.8 114.22
2.61		 00:00:59.3
00:00:01.2
19 35
JPN 		Katsuta T. / Salminen Marko
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:11:55.9 114.05
2.66		 00:01:00.4
00:00:01.1
20 21
UKR 		Gorban Valeriy / Larens Sergei
Mini John Cooper Works WRC		 RC1 00:11:57.3 113.83
2.72		 00:01:01.8
00:00:01.4
21 45
FIN 		Vatanen Max / Renucci J.
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:12:03.5 112.85
3.00		 00:01:08.0
00:00:06.2
22 8
ARE 		Al Qassimi K. / Patterson Chris
Citroën C3 WRC		 RC1 00:12:11.8 111.57
3.36		 00:01:16.3
00:00:08.3
23 73
FIN 		Lehessaari M. / Hämäläinen R.
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:12:14.3 111.19
3.47		 00:01:18.8
00:00:02.5
24 37
JPN 		Arai Hiroki / MacNeall Glenn
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:12:15.1 111.07
3.51		 00:01:19.6
00:00:00.8
25 76
FIN 		Kihlman Jari / Ikonen Tomi
Hyundai i20 R5		 RC2 00:12:19.5 110.41
3.70		 00:01:24.0
00:00:04.4
26 32
ROU 		Tempestini S. / Bernacchini G.
Citroën DS3 R5		 RC2 00:12:27.7 109.20
4.07		 00:01:32.2
00:00:08.2
27 62
FRA 		Ciamin Nicolas / De La Haye T.
Ford Fiesta R2T		 RC4 00:12:43.7 106.91
4.77		 00:01:48.2
00:00:16.0
28 44
EST 		Jeets Raul / Sikk Kuldar
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:12:47.9 106.33
4.96		 00:01:52.4
00:00:04.2
29 75
NLD 		Burger Kees / Lukka Mikko
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:12:49.1 106.16
5.01		 00:01:53.6
00:00:01.2
30 85
ESP 		Villanueva A. / Sanchez Oscar
Citroën DS3 R5		 RC2 00:12:55.2 105.33
5.28		 00:01:59.7
00:00:06.1
31 41
GBR 		Pryce Osian / Furniss Dale
Ford Fiesta R5		 RC2 00:12:57.0 105.08
5.36		 00:02:01.5
00:00:01.8
32 69
FIN 		Lindholm Emil / Tuominen Tomi
Ford Fiesta R2T		 RC4 00:13:02.6 104.33
5.60		 00:02:07.1
00:00:05.6
33 67
DEU 		Tannert Julius / Heigl Jürgen
Ford Fiesta R2T		 RC4 00:13:05.4 103.96
5.73		 00:02:09.9
00:00:02.8
34 82
FIN 		Saxberg Ari / Leppälä Pekka
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:13:20.6 101.98
6.40		 00:02:25.1
00:00:15.2
35 87
FIN 		Kivioja Atte / Haataja Pasi
Peugeot 208 R2		 RC4 00:13:24.4 101.50
6.57		 00:02:28.9
00:00:03.8
36 77
FIN 		Virtanen Jouni / Juntunen Mika
Citroën DS3 R5		 RC2 00:13:29.2 100.90
6.78		 00:02:33.7
00:00:04.8
37 65
USA 		Van Way Dillon / Roberts Dai
Ford Fiesta R2T		 RC4 00:13:44.2 99.06
7.44		 00:02:48.7
00:00:15.0
38 90
ITA 		Accornero U. / Arena Nicola
Peugeot 208 R2		 RC4 00:14:20.7 94.86
9.05		 00:03:25.2
00:00:36.5
39 91
FIN 		Hytönen Kari / Herranen Ada
Peugeot 208 R2		 RC4 00:14:32.2 93.61
9.55		 00:03:36.7
00:00:11.5
40 80
FRA 		Casado Philippe / Zurbach Laure
Peugeot 208 T16		 RC2 00:14:32.3 93.60
9.56		 00:03:36.8
00:00:00.1
41 92
FIN 		Kaisanlahti R. / Sparre Aki
Ford Fiesta R2		 RC4 00:14:33.1 93.52
9.59		 00:03:37.6
00:00:00.8
42 93
ESP 		Díaz Aboitiz M. / Sanjuan De Eusebio D.
Ford Fiesta R2		 RC4 00:15:22.8 88.48
11.79		 00:04:27.3
00:00:49.7
43 95
FIN 		Juusonen Sami / Talso Jan
Suzuki Swift Sport		 00:15:23.7 88.39
11.83		 00:04:28.2
00:00:00.9
44 64
SWE 		Rådström D. / Johansson Johan
Ford Fiesta R2T		 RC4 00:16:01.0 84.96
13.47		 00:05:05.5
00:00:37.3
45 94
JPN 		Washio Shunichi / Ishikawa Y.
Toyota Vitz		 RC5 00:16:23.8 82.99
14.48		 00:05:28.3
00:00:22.8
46 61
ESP 		Solans Nil / Ibañez Miquel
Ford Fiesta R2T		 RC4 00:16:30.0 82.47
14.75		 00:05:34.5
00:00:06.2
47 88
FRA 		France Julien / Mazarguil P.
Citroën DS3 R3T		 RC3 00:17:42.8 76.82
17.96		 00:06:47.3
00:01:12.8
48 4
NZL 		Paddon Hayden / Marshall S.
Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC		 RC1 00:17:55.5 75.92
18.52		 00:07:00.0
00:00:12.7
49 38
ITA 		Andolfi Fabio / Fenoli Manuel
Hyundai i20 R5		 RC2 00:18:39.8 72.91
20.47		 00:07:44.3
00:00:44.3
- 39
FIN 		Nordgren Juuso / Korhonen Mikael
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:18:39.8 72.91
20.47		 00:07:44.3
00:00:00.0
- 43
ITA 		Scandola U. / Ferrara Michele
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:18:39.8 72.91
20.47		 00:07:44.3
00:00:00.0
52 31
NOR 		Veiby O. / Skjærmoen S.
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:18:51.1 72.18
20.97		 00:07:55.6
00:00:11.3
- 78
FIN 		Metsälä Jukka / Ohra-aho Sari
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:18:51.1 72.18
20.97		 00:07:55.6
00:00:00.0
- 79
SWE 		Stugemo Lars / Lexe Karl-Olof
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:18:51.1 72.18
20.97		 00:07:55.6
00:00:00.0
- 81
HUN 		Szabó Zoltán / Szabó K.
Škoda Fabia R5		 RC2 00:18:51.1 72.18
20.97		 00:07:55.6
00:00:00.0
56 86
FIN 		Pietarinen H. / Lummaa Juha
Ford Fiesta R2T		 RC4 00:20:24.4 66.68
25.08		 00:09:28.9
00:01:33.3
Pos. No.
Driver / Co-driver
Vehicle		 Pos. SS time
Penalty		 Total time Diff.Leader
Diff.Prev.
1 10
FIN
1		 Latvala J. / Anttila Miikka
Toyota Yaris WRC  		RC1
1		 00:17:49.4
 00:17:49.4 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 11
FIN
2		 Hänninen Juho / Lindström Kaj
Toyota Yaris WRC  		RC1
2		 00:17:58.6
 00:17:58.6 00:00:09.2
00:00:09.2
3 12
FIN
4		 Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne
Toyota Yaris WRC  		RC1
3		 00:17:58.6
 00:17:58.6 00:00:09.2
00:00:00.0
4 3
GBR
6		 Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel
Ford Fiesta WRC  		RC1
4		 00:17:58.9
 00:17:58.9 00:00:09.5
00:00:00.3
5 15
FIN
3		 Suninen Teemu / Markkula Mikko
Ford Fiesta WRC  		RC1
5		 00:17:59.3
 00:17:59.3 00:00:09.9
00:00:00.4
6 2
EST
7		 Tänak Ott / Järveoja M.
Ford Fiesta WRC  		RC1
6		 00:18:03.3
 00:18:03.3 00:00:13.9
00:00:04.0
7 14
NOR
8		 Østberg Mads / Eriksen T.
Ford Fiesta WRC  		RC1
7		 00:18:05.8
 00:18:05.8 00:00:16.4
00:00:02.5
8 5
BEL
9		 Neuville T. / Gilsoul Nicolas
Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC  		RC1
8		 00:18:10.0
 00:18:10.0 00:00:20.6
00:00:04.2
9 9
IRL
10		 Breen Craig / Martin Scott
Citroën C3 WRC  		RC1
9		 00:18:14.6
 00:18:14.6 00:00:25.2
00:00:04.6
10 7
GBR
11		 Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul
Citroën C3 WRC  		RC1
10		 00:18:16.8
 00:18:16.8 00:00:27.4
00:00:02.2
11 6
ESP
12		 Sordo Dani / Martí Marc
Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC  		RC1
11		 00:18:36.4
 00:18:36.4 00:00:47.0
00:00:19.6
12 40
FIN
14		 Huttunen Jari / Linnaketo Antti
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
1		 00:19:01.2
 00:19:01.2 00:01:11.8
00:00:24.8
13 71
FRA
16		 Camilli Eric / Veillas B.
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
2		 00:19:22.4
 00:19:22.4 00:01:33.0
00:00:21.2
14 34
GBR
21		 Greensmith Gus / Parry Craig
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
3		 00:19:22.4
 00:19:22.4 00:01:33.0
00:00:00.0
15 36
FRA
17		 Gilbert Quentin / Jamoul Renaud
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
4		 00:19:25.0
 00:19:25.0 00:01:35.6
00:00:02.6
16 72
FIN
20		 Asunmaa Teemu / Halttunen Jonne
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
5		 00:19:26.6
 00:19:26.6 00:01:37.2
00:00:01.6
17 42
GBR
19		 Cave Tom / Morgan James
Hyundai i20 R5  		RC2
6		 00:19:28.3
 00:19:28.3 00:01:38.9
00:00:01.7
18 33
FRA
22		 Loubet P. / Landais Vincent
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
7		 00:19:28.4
 00:19:28.4 00:01:39.0
00:00:00.1
19 35
JPN
18		 Katsuta T. / Salminen Marko
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
8		 00:19:28.8
 00:19:28.8 00:01:39.4
00:00:00.4
20 21
UKR
24		 Gorban Valeriy / Larens Sergei
Mini John Cooper Works WRC  		RC1
12		 00:19:37.6
 00:19:37.6 00:01:48.2
00:00:08.8
21 45
FIN
29		 Vatanen Max / Renucci J.
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
9		 00:19:49.2
 00:19:49.2 00:01:59.8
00:00:11.6
22 8
ARE
26		 Al Qassimi K. / Patterson Chris
Citroën C3 WRC  		RC1
13		 00:19:53.5
 00:19:53.5 00:02:04.1
00:00:04.3
23 73
FIN
27		 Lehessaari M. / Hämäläinen R.
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
10		 00:19:57.3
 00:19:57.3 00:02:07.9
00:00:03.8
24 37
JPN
30		 Arai Hiroki / MacNeall Glenn
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
11		 00:20:00.9
 00:20:00.9 00:02:11.5
00:00:03.6
25 32
ROU
31		 Tempestini S. / Bernacchini G.
Citroën DS3 R5  		RC2
12		 00:20:17.3
 00:20:17.3 00:02:27.9
00:00:16.4
26 76
FIN
32		 Kihlman Jari / Ikonen Tomi
Hyundai i20 R5  		RC2
13		 00:20:18.2
 00:20:18.2 00:02:28.8
00:00:00.9
27 41
GBR
25		 Pryce Osian / Furniss Dale
Ford Fiesta R5  		RC2
14		 00:20:38.0
 00:20:38.0 00:02:48.6
00:00:19.8
28 75
NLD
34		 Burger Kees / Lukka Mikko
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
15		 00:20:58.2
 00:20:58.2 00:03:08.8
00:00:20.2
29 62
FRA
37		 Ciamin Nicolas / De La Haye T.
Ford Fiesta R2T  		RC4
1		 00:20:58.7
 00:20:58.7 00:03:09.3
00:00:00.5
30 44
EST
40		 Jeets Raul / Sikk Kuldar
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
16		 00:21:08.3
 00:21:08.3 00:03:18.9
00:00:09.6
31 69
FIN
36		 Lindholm Emil / Tuominen Tomi
Ford Fiesta R2T  		RC4
2		 00:21:16.4
 00:21:16.4 00:03:27.0
00:00:08.1
32 67
DEU
42		 Tannert Julius / Heigl Jürgen
Ford Fiesta R2T  		RC4
3		 00:21:35.6
 00:21:35.6 00:03:46.2
00:00:19.2
33 85
ESP
45		 Villanueva A. / Sanchez Oscar
Citroën DS3 R5  		RC2
17		 00:21:38.0
 00:21:38.0 00:03:48.6
00:00:02.4
34 77
FIN
41		 Virtanen Jouni / Juntunen Mika
Citroën DS3 R5  		RC2
18		 00:21:56.2
 00:21:56.2 00:04:06.8
00:00:18.2
35 82
FIN
44		 Saxberg Ari / Leppälä Pekka
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
19		 00:21:59.5
 00:21:59.5 00:04:10.1
00:00:03.3
36 87
FIN
47		 Kivioja Atte / Haataja Pasi
Peugeot 208 R2  		RC4
4		 00:22:23.9
 00:22:23.9 00:04:34.5
00:00:24.4
37 65
USA
46		 Van Way Dillon / Roberts Dai
Ford Fiesta R2T  		RC4
5		 00:22:35.8
 00:22:35.8 00:04:46.4
00:00:11.9
38 90
ITA
49		 Accornero U. / Arena Nicola
Peugeot 208 R2  		RC4
6		 00:23:33.7
 00:23:33.7 00:05:44.3
00:00:57.9
39 92
FIN
51		 Kaisanlahti R. / Sparre Aki
Ford Fiesta R2  		RC4
7		 00:24:10.8
 00:24:10.8 00:06:21.4
00:00:37.1
40 64
SWE
38		 Rådström D. / Johansson Johan
Ford Fiesta R2T  		RC4
8		 00:24:17.0
 00:24:17.0 00:06:27.6
00:00:06.2
41 91
FIN
52		 Hytönen Kari / Herranen Ada
Peugeot 208 R2  		RC4
9		 00:24:17.3
 00:24:17.3 00:06:27.9
00:00:00.3
42 80
FRA
54		 Casado Philippe / Zurbach Laure
Peugeot 208 T16  		RC2
20		 00:24:31.1
 00:24:31.1 00:06:41.7
00:00:13.8
43 61
ESP
39		 Solans Nil / Ibañez Miquel
Ford Fiesta R2T  		RC4
10		 00:24:46.5
 00:24:46.5 00:06:57.1
00:00:15.4
44 4
NZL
5		 Paddon Hayden / Marshall S.
Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC  		RC1
14		 00:24:55.0
 00:24:55.0 00:07:05.6
00:00:08.5
45 93
ESP
53		 Díaz Aboitiz M. / Sanjuan De Eusebio D.
Ford Fiesta R2  		RC4
11		 00:25:16.4
 00:25:16.4 00:07:27.0
00:00:21.4
46 95
FIN
55		 Juusonen Sami / Talso Jan
Suzuki Swift Sport 
00:25:44.5
 00:25:44.5 00:07:55.1
00:00:28.1
47 39
FIN
13		 Nordgren Juuso / Korhonen Mikael
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
21		 00:26:00.7
 00:26:00.7 00:08:11.3
00:00:16.2
48 38
ITA
23		 Andolfi Fabio / Fenoli Manuel
Hyundai i20 R5  		RC2
22		 00:26:18.5
 00:26:18.5 00:08:29.1
00:00:17.8
49 31
NOR
15		 Veiby O. / Skjærmoen S.
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
23		 00:26:19.4
 00:26:19.4 00:08:30.0
00:00:00.9
50 43
ITA
28		 Scandola U. / Ferrara Michele
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
24		 00:26:23.4
 00:26:23.4 00:08:34.0
00:00:04.0
51 79
SWE
35		 Stugemo Lars / Lexe Karl-Olof
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
25		 00:27:01.2
 00:27:01.2 00:09:11.8
00:00:37.8
52 88
FRA
50		 France Julien / Mazarguil P.
Citroën DS3 R3T  		RC3
1		 00:27:20.3
 00:27:20.3 00:09:30.9
00:00:19.1
53 78
FIN
43		 Metsälä Jukka / Ohra-aho Sari
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
26		 00:27:28.9
 00:27:28.9 00:09:39.5
00:00:08.6
54 94
JPN
56		 Washio Shunichi / Ishikawa Y.
Toyota Vitz  		RC5
1		 00:27:37.1
 00:27:37.1 00:09:47.7
00:00:08.2
55 81
HUN
48		 Szabó Zoltán / Szabó K.
Škoda Fabia R5  		RC2
27		 00:27:51.6
 00:27:51.6 00:10:02.2
00:00:14.5
56 86
FIN
33		 Pietarinen H. / Lummaa Juha
Ford Fiesta R2T  		RC4
12		 00:28:32.9
 00:28:32.9 00:10:43.5
00:00:41.3
INFORMATION ABOUT SS 15
flash info (15 - Suninen Teemu / Markkula Mikko): That was good, a better stage for us. I must be more consistent and try to avoid mistakes like the chicane earlier. On these fast rallies I need to be more precise and not slide so much.
(41 - Pryce Osian / Furniss Dale): was out of road
retired (81 - Szabó Zoltán / Szabó Krisztián): retired in SS 15
retired (78 - Metsälä Jukka / Ohra-aho Sari): retired in SS 15
retired (86 - Pietarinen Henrik / Lummaa Juha): retired in SS 15
retired (79 - Stugemo Lars / Lexe Karl-Olof): accident in SS 15
retired (39 - Nordgren Juuso / Korhonen Mikael): retired in SS 15
retired (43 - Scandola Umberto / Ferrara Michele): retired in SS 15
retired (38 - Andolfi Fabio / Fenoli Manuel): accident in SS 15
flash info (71 - Camilli Eric / Veillas Benjamin): I'm disappointed for Veiby. It looks like a huge crash but both drivers are okay.
retired (31 - Veiby Ole Christian / Skjærmoen Stig Rune): accident in SS 15
flash info (12 - Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne): I don't know, it was a clean stage for me but it seems I was not pushing enough. Jari-Matti was doing well, I can't fight with him now. This is quite a decent speed. I haven't had any moments. I don't know if it's wise to try and push.
flash info (10 - Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka): This stage was difficult - the mud in the beginning made grip very difficult, the end was better. I love the character of this stage.
flash info (4 - Paddon Hayden / Marshall Sebastian): Enjoying the morning stages but unfortunately couldn’t avoid a rock the size of a football in middle of the road… broken suspension again.
retired (4 - Paddon Hayden / Marshall Sebastian): damaged suspension in SS 15
flash info (9 - Breen Craig / Martin Scott): It shouldn't have done that. I've completely lost the confidence at the rear.
(9 - Breen Craig / Martin Scott): spun
flash info (11 - Hänninen Juho / Lindström Kaj): No issues. Just trying to find the perfect rhythm.
flash info (14 - Østberg Mads / Eriksen Torstein): Not so nice, the car is oversteering a lot. I can't get the grip at the rear, powersliding on the throttle everywhere. I was annoyed.
flash info (3 - Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel): I struggled on the small road but the pace on the good road went well. I've always liked this stage.
flash info (5 - Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas): I was not driving very well in here. The car is moving around, hitting the bump stops on landings. I need to stiffen the setup.
flash info (7 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): We still have a little issue with the steering.
flash info (2 - Tänak Ott / Järveoja Martin): The previous stage had good grip, but this one was slippery. It's changing. The wipers were okay here.
flash info (6 - Sordo Dani / Martí Marc): It was fun, and the feeling is a little bit better. The car is not bad but the driver is not fast enough this weekend. A difficult weekend for us.
flash info (8 - Al Qassimi Khalid / Patterson Chris): Lots of blind crests that really test your confidence.