Historic Vltava Rallye 2023

Historic Vltava Rallye 2023


21. 04. 2023 - 22. 04. 2023

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Lista por categoría: Todos
TC 6 - Klatovský okruh
Longitud TC: 12.82km

Progreso TC

Pos. Nr. Piloto / Co-piloto
Vehículo		 Grupo Tiempo TC Velocidad promedio
Seg/km		 Dif. 1ro
Dif. Ant.
1 3
ITA 		Lucky .. / Pons Fabrizia
Lancia Delta HF Integrale		 E/3 00:06:49.1 112.81
0.00		 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 5
HUN 		Érdi T. / Kerék István
Ford Sierra Cosworth		 E/3 00:06:51.5 112.16
0.19		 00:00:02.4
00:00:02.4
3 31
SWE 		Johnsen Anders / Johnsen Ingrid
Ford Sierra Cosworth		 E/3 00:07:06.0 108.34
1.32		 00:00:16.9
00:00:14.5
4 2
AUT 		Wagner Karl / Zauner Gerda
Porsche 911 SC		 D/2 00:07:11.4 106.98
1.74		 00:00:22.3
00:00:05.4
5 8
DEU 		Geist Jürgen / Otterbach Nico
Opel Manta 400		 E/3 00:07:11.7 106.91
1.76		 00:00:22.6
00:00:00.3
6 6
CZE 		Štajf Vojtěch / Zelinka V.
Toyota Celica GT Four		 E4cz 00:07:13.4 106.49
1.90		 00:00:24.3
00:00:01.7
7 7
ESP 		Sainz Antonio / De La Puente D.
Subaru Legacy RS		 E/3 00:07:16.9 105.64
2.17		 00:00:27.8
00:00:03.5
8 10
AUT 		Putz Michael / Putz Elisabeth
Porsche 911 SC		 D/2 00:07:18.7 105.20
2.31		 00:00:29.6
00:00:01.8
9 11
NOR 		Jensen V. / Pedersen Erik
Ford Escort RS 1800		 C/1 00:07:25.3 103.64
2.82		 00:00:36.2
00:00:06.6
10 43
CZE 		Kotrmon Libor / Pečenková V.
Ford Escort RS Cosworth		 F7cz 00:07:25.5 103.60
2.84		 00:00:36.4
00:00:00.2
11 21
DEU 		Hinderer Peter / Heubl Chris
Porsche 911 SC		 D/2 00:07:25.9 103.50
2.87		 00:00:36.8
00:00:00.4
12 15
ITA 		Pasutti Paolo / Campeis G.
Porsche 911 RS		 C/2 00:07:28.1 102.99
3.04		 00:00:39.0
00:00:02.2
13 53
CZE 		Pavlíček M. / Stráský Pavel
Ford Escort RS 1600		 C3cz 00:07:31.0 102.33
3.27		 00:00:41.9
00:00:02.9
14 32
DEU 		Weber Benedikt / Cabanis Patrick
Porsche 911 SC		 D/2 00:07:35.0 101.43
3.58		 00:00:45.9
00:00:04.0
15 52
CZE 		Štolfa J. / Hawel Zdeněk
Ford Escort RS 1600		 C3cz 00:07:36.6 101.08
3.71		 00:00:47.5
00:00:01.6
16 12
AUT 		Reitsperger G. / Knödl Herbert
Ford Sierra Cosworth		 E/3 00:07:38.3 100.70
3.84		 00:00:49.2
00:00:01.7
17 46
CZE 		Knížek Martin / Šlegl Petr
BMW 318 iS		 E3cz 00:07:40.2 100.29
3.99		 00:00:51.1
00:00:01.9
18 50
CZE 		Tejkal Miroslav / Hamšík Daniel
Subaru Impreza 555		 F7cz 00:07:42.6 99.77
4.17		 00:00:53.5
00:00:02.4
19 44
CZE 		Kašpar Jiří / Adámek Pavel
Škoda 130 LR		 E5cz 00:07:43.5 99.57
4.24		 00:00:54.4
00:00:00.9
20 23
ESP 		Dameto Fernando / Sastre Sergi
Porsche 911 SC		 D/2 00:07:43.7 99.53
4.26		 00:00:54.6
00:00:00.2
21 51
CZE 		Klepáč Martin / Říhánek Ivan
Citroën ZX		 F6cz 00:07:44.5 99.36
4.32		 00:00:55.4
00:00:00.8
22 47
CZE 		Káňa Jiří / Slováček D.
BMW 325 i		 F7cz 00:07:46.2 99.00
4.45		 00:00:57.1
00:00:01.7
23 64
CZE 		Hejzlar J. / Klička Milan
Opel Kadett Coupe		 C3cz 00:07:46.5 98.93
4.48		 00:00:57.4
00:00:00.3
24 19
ESP 		Sampayo Carlos / Serrano Irene
Renault 11 Turbo		 E/3 00:07:46.8 98.87
4.50		 00:00:57.7
00:00:00.3
25 71
CZE 		Maier Pavel / Minářík Petr
Ford Escort RS 1600		 C3cz 00:07:47.0 98.83
4.52		 00:00:57.9
00:00:00.2
26 27
GBR 		Coughtrie Tom / McAuley Stephen
Ford Escort RS 1800		 D/1 00:07:50.3 98.13
4.77		 00:01:01.2
00:00:03.3
27 45
CZE 		Frei Jan / Maryška Roman
Škoda 130 LR		 E5cz 00:07:50.8 98.03
4.81		 00:01:01.7
00:00:00.5
28 48
CZE 		Bělohradský T. / Rieger David
BMW 318 iS		 F6cz 00:07:51.8 97.82
4.89		 00:01:02.7
00:00:01.0
29 24
GBR 		Graham Ernie / Graham Karen
Ford Escort Twin Cam		 B/1 00:07:52.9 97.59
4.98		 00:01:03.8
00:00:01.1
30 49
CZE 		Šrámek Jiří / Škodová A.
BMW 318 iS		 F6cz 00:07:55.4 97.08
5.17		 00:01:06.3
00:00:02.5
31 17
CZE 		Budil Stanislav / Vejvoda Petr
BMW 2002 TI		 C3cz 00:07:56.9 96.78
5.29		 00:01:07.8
00:00:01.5
32 20
DEU 		Mayr Siegfried / Mayr Renate
Volvo 244		 D/2 00:07:57.6 96.63
5.34		 00:01:08.5
00:00:00.7
33 54
CZE 		Hejhal Petr / Hejhal Martin
Škoda 130 LR		 E5cz 00:07:58.5 96.45
5.41		 00:01:09.4
00:00:00.9
34 14
HUN 		Magoss Péter / Kincses Erika
Subaru Legacy RS		 E/3 00:08:01.3 95.89
5.63		 00:01:12.2
00:00:02.8
35 56
CZE 		Bahník L. / Bahník M.
Peugeot 205 Gti		 E3cz 00:08:03.4 95.47
5.80		 00:01:14.3
00:00:02.1
36 22
FIN 		Hämäläinen T. / Hämäläinen K.
Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV		 D/2 00:08:04.6 95.24
5.89		 00:01:15.5
00:00:01.2
37 55
CZE 		Hostaš Václav / Valeš Jan
Lada VFTS		 E6cz 00:08:05.3 95.10
5.94		 00:01:16.2
00:00:00.7
38 34
CZE 		Dolák Luboš / Kulhan Jiří
Lada 21011		 D2cz 00:08:14.0 93.43
6.62		 00:01:24.9
00:00:08.7
39 57
CZE 		Bejvl Jan / Behro Petr
Ford Fiesta		 D2cz 00:08:16.6 92.94
6.83		 00:01:27.5
00:00:02.6
40 18
CZE 		Kovařík O. / Kapic Marek
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 E1cz 00:08:21.2 92.08
7.18		 00:01:32.1
00:00:04.6
41 65
CZE 		Schmied Jan / Kacerovský P.
Škoda 130 RS		 C1cz 00:08:22.0 91.94
7.25		 00:01:32.9
00:00:00.8
42 25
ITA 		Parisi Antonio / D'Angelo G.
Porsche 911 S		 B/1 00:08:22.2 91.90
7.26		 00:01:33.1
00:00:00.2
43 74
CZE 		Šimánko Jan / Bartl Michal
Škoda 130 L		 E1cz 00:08:30.7 90.37
7.93		 00:01:41.6
00:00:08.5
44 62
CZE 		Neoral Martin / Kocour Tomáš
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 E1cz 00:08:31.0 90.32
7.95		 00:01:41.9
00:00:00.3
45 73
CZE 		Šenkýř J. / Hándl Jiří
Suzuki Swift GTi		 F5cz 00:08:32.8 90.00
8.09		 00:01:43.7
00:00:01.8
46 63
CZE 		Andrle Václav / Andrle Jan
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 E1cz 00:08:33.2 89.93
8.12		 00:01:44.1
00:00:00.4
47 76
CZE 		Kovanda J. / Fučíková Eva
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 F5cz 00:08:35.9 89.46
8.33		 00:01:46.8
00:00:02.7
48 69
CZE 		Sázavský J. / Jílek Lukáš
VAZ 2103		 C2cz 00:08:37.2 89.23
8.43		 00:01:48.1
00:00:01.3
- 70
CZE 		Řepa Michael / Votava Lukáš
Škoda 110 L		 C0cz 00:08:37.2 89.23
8.43		 00:01:48.1
00:00:00.0
50 37
FIN 		Norrgård S. / Villikka Anni
BMW 2002 TI		 B/1 00:08:38.9 88.94
8.56		 00:01:49.8
00:00:01.7
51 68
CZE 		Carbol Tomáš / Smrčková K.
Škoda 120 S Rallye		 C1cz 00:08:39.6 88.82
8.62		 00:01:50.5
00:00:00.7
52 77
CZE 		Halady Zdeněk / Haladyová I.
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 F5cz 00:08:40.3 88.70
8.67		 00:01:51.2
00:00:00.7
53 67
CZE 		Kroupar Zdeněk / Zelený Josef
Lancia Beta Coupe		 C3cz 00:08:42.5 88.33
8.85		 00:01:53.4
00:00:02.2
54 36
CZE 		Touš Radek / Hronek Lukáš
Škoda 120 S Rallye		 C1cz 00:08:43.3 88.19
8.91		 00:01:54.2
00:00:00.8
55 72
CZE 		Jun Miroslav / Těšínský J.
Suzuki Swift GTi		 F5cz 00:08:46.1 87.72
9.13		 00:01:57.0
00:00:02.8
56 66
CZE 		Svoboda B. / Klášterková K.
Škoda 1000 MB		 C0cz 00:08:49.0 87.24
9.35		 00:01:59.9
00:00:02.9
57 61
CZE 		Klokočník T. / Rišková R.
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 E1cz 00:08:49.7 87.13
9.41		 00:02:00.6
00:00:00.7
58 75
CZE 		Vítovec Pavel / Vítovec Pavel
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 E1cz 00:08:51.3 86.87
9.53		 00:02:02.2
00:00:01.6
59 79
CZE 		Horčík Karel / Zetek Jiří
Škoda 130 L		 E1cz 00:08:55.5 86.18
9.86		 00:02:06.4
00:00:04.2
60 78
CZE 		Patejdl Marcel / Kasten Miroslav
Škoda Favorit 136 L		 E1cz 00:09:04.4 84.78
10.55		 00:02:15.3
00:00:08.9
61 81
CZE 		Kabourek V. / Husáková P.
Škoda 120 S		 C1cz 00:09:06.3 84.48
10.70		 00:02:17.2
00:00:01.9
62 28
CZE 		Kovařík O. / Píža Josef
Škoda Octavia TS		 A1cz 00:09:09.2 84.03
10.93		 00:02:20.1
00:00:02.9
63 39
FIN 		Anttalainen P. / Hietaniemi A.
Škoda Octavia TS		 A/1 00:10:42.0 71.89
18.17		 00:03:52.9
00:01:32.8
Pos. Nr.
Piloto / Co-piloto
Vehículo		 Pos. Tiempo TC
Penalizaciones		 Tiempo total Dif. 1ro
Dif. Ant.
1 3
ITA
1		 Lucky .. / Pons Fabrizia
Lancia Delta HF Integrale  		E/3
1		 00:45:26.9
 00:45:26.9 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 5
HUN
2		 Érdi T. / Kerék István
Ford Sierra Cosworth  		E/3
2		 00:45:35.8
 00:45:35.8 00:00:08.9
00:00:08.9
3 2
AUT
3		 Wagner Karl / Zauner Gerda
Porsche 911 SC  		D/2
1		 00:46:48.1
 00:46:48.1 00:01:21.2
00:01:12.3
4 8
DEU
4		 Geist Jürgen / Otterbach Nico
Opel Manta 400  		E/3
3		 00:47:51.1
 00:47:51.1 00:02:24.2
00:01:03.0
5 10
AUT
5		 Putz Michael / Putz Elisabeth
Porsche 911 SC  		D/2
2		 00:48:32.2
 00:48:32.2 00:03:05.3
00:00:41.1
6 7
ESP
7		 Sainz Antonio / De La Puente D.
Subaru Legacy RS  		E/3
4		 00:48:43.5
 00:48:43.5 00:03:16.6
00:00:11.3
7 11
NOR
6		 Jensen V. / Pedersen Erik
Ford Escort RS 1800  		C/1
1		 00:48:48.4
 00:48:48.4 00:03:21.5
00:00:04.9
8 15
ITA
12		 Pasutti Paolo / Campeis G.
Porsche 911 RS  		C/2
1		 00:50:37.5
 00:50:37.5 00:05:10.6
00:01:49.1
9 14
HUN
9		 Magoss Péter / Kincses Erika
Subaru Legacy RS  		E/3
5		 00:50:42.3
 00:50:42.3 00:05:15.4
00:00:04.8
10 43
CZE
13		 Kotrmon Libor / Pečenková V.
Ford Escort RS Cosworth  		F7cz
1		 00:50:29.5
00:00:20.0		 00:50:49.5 00:05:22.6
00:00:07.2
11 45
CZE
11		 Frei Jan / Maryška Roman
Škoda 130 LR  		E5cz
1		 00:50:59.1
 00:50:59.1 00:05:32.2
00:00:09.6
12 17
CZE
10		 Budil Stanislav / Vejvoda Petr
BMW 2002 TI  		C3cz
1		 00:51:01.7
 00:51:01.7 00:05:34.8
00:00:02.6
13 52
CZE
15		 Štolfa J. / Hawel Zdeněk
Ford Escort RS 1600  		C3cz
2		 00:51:13.3
 00:51:13.3 00:05:46.4
00:00:11.6
14 44
CZE
14		 Kašpar Jiří / Adámek Pavel
Škoda 130 LR  		E5cz
2		 00:51:18.2
 00:51:18.2 00:05:51.3
00:00:04.9
15 46
CZE
16		 Knížek Martin / Šlegl Petr
BMW 318 iS  		E3cz
1		 00:51:30.9
 00:51:30.9 00:06:04.0
00:00:12.7
16 32
DEU
17		 Weber Benedikt / Cabanis Patrick
Porsche 911 SC  		D/2
3		 00:51:37.0
 00:51:37.0 00:06:10.1
00:00:06.1
17 47
CZE
18		 Káňa Jiří / Slováček D.
BMW 325 i  		F7cz
2		 00:51:57.4
 00:51:57.4 00:06:30.5
00:00:20.4
18 51
CZE
19		 Klepáč Martin / Říhánek Ivan
Citroën ZX  		F6cz
1		 00:52:15.0
 00:52:15.0 00:06:48.1
00:00:17.6
19 23
ESP
20		 Dameto Fernando / Sastre Sergi
Porsche 911 SC  		D/2
4		 00:52:17.6
 00:52:17.6 00:06:50.7
00:00:02.6
20 53
CZE
22		 Pavlíček M. / Stráský Pavel
Ford Escort RS 1600  		C3cz
3		 00:52:18.4
 00:52:18.4 00:06:51.5
00:00:00.8
21 24
GBR
21		 Graham Ernie / Graham Karen
Ford Escort Twin Cam  		B/1
1		 00:52:38.3
 00:52:38.3 00:07:11.4
00:00:19.9
22 54
CZE
24		 Hejhal Petr / Hejhal Martin
Škoda 130 LR  		E5cz
3		 00:53:01.6
 00:53:01.6 00:07:34.7
00:00:23.3
23 48
CZE
25		 Bělohradský T. / Rieger David
BMW 318 iS  		F6cz
2		 00:52:51.9
00:00:10.0		 00:53:01.9 00:07:35.0
00:00:00.3
24 50
CZE
26		 Tejkal Miroslav / Hamšík Daniel
Subaru Impreza 555  		F7cz
3		 00:53:14.6
 00:53:14.6 00:07:47.7
00:00:12.7
25 18
CZE
23		 Kovařík O. / Kapic Marek
Škoda Favorit 136 L  		E1cz
1		 00:53:21.5
 00:53:21.5 00:07:54.6
00:00:06.9
26 19
ESP
27		 Sampayo Carlos / Serrano Irene
Renault 11 Turbo  		E/3
6		 00:53:37.4
 00:53:37.4 00:08:10.5
00:00:15.9
27 20
DEU
29		 Mayr Siegfried / Mayr Renate
Volvo 244  		D/2
5		 00:52:08.3
00:02:00.0		 00:54:08.3 00:08:41.4
00:00:30.9
28 34
CZE
28		 Dolák Luboš / Kulhan Jiří
Lada 21011  		D2cz
1		 00:54:21.7
 00:54:21.7 00:08:54.8
00:00:13.4
29 49
CZE
30		 Šrámek Jiří / Škodová A.
BMW 318 iS  		F6cz
3		 00:53:37.0
00:00:50.0		 00:54:27.0 00:09:00.1
00:00:05.3
30 27
GBR
34		 Coughtrie Tom / McAuley Stephen
Ford Escort RS 1800  		D/1
2		 00:55:00.8
 00:55:00.8 00:09:33.9
00:00:33.8
31 55
CZE
32		 Hostaš Václav / Valeš Jan
Lada VFTS  		E6cz
1		 00:55:13.6
 00:55:13.6 00:09:46.7
00:00:12.8
32 62
CZE
33		 Neoral Martin / Kocour Tomáš
Škoda Favorit 136 L  		E1cz
2		 00:55:39.6
 00:55:39.6 00:10:12.7
00:00:26.0
33 56
CZE
38		 Bahník L. / Bahník M.
Peugeot 205 Gti  		E3cz
2		 00:54:45.8
00:01:00.0		 00:55:45.8 00:10:18.9
00:00:06.2
34 65
CZE
36		 Schmied Jan / Kacerovský P.
Škoda 130 RS  		C1cz
1		 00:55:56.9
 00:55:56.9 00:10:30.0
00:00:11.1
35 63
CZE
35		 Andrle Václav / Andrle Jan
Škoda Favorit 136 L  		E1cz
3		 00:55:47.0
00:00:10.0		 00:55:57.0 00:10:30.1
00:00:00.1
36 22
FIN
39		 Hämäläinen T. / Hämäläinen K.
Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV  		D/2
6		 00:55:48.0
00:00:30.0		 00:56:18.0 00:10:51.1
00:00:21.0
37 66
CZE
37		 Svoboda B. / Klášterková K.
Škoda 1000 MB  		C0cz
1		 00:56:27.2
 00:56:27.2 00:11:00.3
00:00:09.2
38 36
CZE
40		 Touš Radek / Hronek Lukáš
Škoda 120 S Rallye  		C1cz
2		 00:56:34.1
 00:56:34.1 00:11:07.2
00:00:06.9
39 57
CZE
42		 Bejvl Jan / Behro Petr
Ford Fiesta  		D2cz
2		 00:56:43.6
 00:56:43.6 00:11:16.7
00:00:09.5
40 73
CZE
41		 Šenkýř J. / Hándl Jiří
Suzuki Swift GTi  		F5cz
1		 00:56:57.7
 00:56:57.7 00:11:30.8
00:00:14.1
41 74
CZE
43		 Šimánko Jan / Bartl Michal
Škoda 130 L  		E1cz
4		 00:56:50.0
00:00:10.0		 00:57:00.0 00:11:33.1
00:00:02.3
42 64
CZE
48		 Hejzlar J. / Klička Milan
Opel Kadett Coupe  		C3cz
4		 00:57:26.2
 00:57:26.2 00:11:59.3
00:00:26.2
43 77
CZE
44		 Halady Zdeněk / Haladyová I.
Škoda Favorit 136 L  		F5cz
2		 00:57:30.6
 00:57:30.6 00:12:03.7
00:00:04.4
44 25
ITA
47		 Parisi Antonio / D'Angelo G.
Porsche 911 S  		B/1
2		 00:57:44.9
 00:57:44.9 00:12:18.0
00:00:14.3
45 72
CZE
45		 Jun Miroslav / Těšínský J.
Suzuki Swift GTi  		F5cz
3		 00:57:50.5
 00:57:50.5 00:12:23.6
00:00:05.6
46 70
CZE
46		 Řepa Michael / Votava Lukáš
Škoda 110 L  		C0cz
2		 00:57:53.3
 00:57:53.3 00:12:26.4
00:00:02.8
47 76
CZE
49		 Kovanda J. / Fučíková Eva
Škoda Favorit 136 L  		F5cz
4		 00:58:39.7
 00:58:39.7 00:13:12.8
00:00:46.4
48 37
FIN
50		 Norrgård S. / Villikka Anni
BMW 2002 TI  		B/1
3		 00:59:07.1
 00:59:07.1 00:13:40.2
00:00:27.4
49 67
CZE
51		 Kroupar Zdeněk / Zelený Josef
Lancia Beta Coupe  		C3cz
5		 00:59:41.1
00:00:30.0		 01:00:11.1 00:14:44.2
00:01:04.0
50 78
CZE
52		 Patejdl Marcel / Kasten Miroslav
Škoda Favorit 136 L  		E1cz
5		 01:00:45.8
 01:00:45.8 00:15:18.9
00:00:34.7
51 69
CZE
55		 Sázavský J. / Jílek Lukáš
VAZ 2103  		C2cz
1		 01:00:21.6
00:01:00.0		 01:01:21.6 00:15:54.7
00:00:35.8
52 75
CZE
54		 Vítovec Pavel / Vítovec Pavel
Škoda Favorit 136 L  		E1cz
6		 01:01:32.9
 01:01:32.9 00:16:06.0
00:00:11.3
53 79
CZE
57		 Horčík Karel / Zetek Jiří
Škoda 130 L  		E1cz
7		 01:01:50.7
 01:01:50.7 00:16:23.8
00:00:17.8
54 28
CZE
56		 Kovařík O. / Píža Josef
Škoda Octavia TS  		A1cz
1		 01:00:34.1
00:01:30.0		 01:02:04.1 00:16:37.2
00:00:13.4
55 81
CZE
58		 Kabourek V. / Husáková P.
Škoda 120 S  		C1cz
3		 01:04:14.2
 01:04:14.2 00:18:47.3
00:02:10.1
56 31
SWE
60		 Johnsen Anders / Johnsen Ingrid
Ford Sierra Cosworth  		E/3
7		 01:06:52.3
00:00:50.0		 01:07:42.3 00:22:15.4
00:03:28.1
57 39
FIN
61		 Anttalainen P. / Hietaniemi A.
Škoda Octavia TS  		A/1
2		 01:14:39.4
 01:14:39.4 00:29:12.5
00:06:57.1
58 6
CZE
62		 Štajf Vojtěch / Zelinka V.
Toyota Celica GT Four  		E4cz
1		 01:17:29.6
 01:17:29.6 00:32:02.7
00:02:50.2
59 21
DEU
64		 Hinderer Peter / Heubl Chris
Porsche 911 SC  		D/2
7		 01:27:22.6
 01:27:22.6 00:41:55.7
00:09:53.0
60 12
AUT
65		 Reitsperger G. / Knödl Herbert
Ford Sierra Cosworth  		E/3
9		 01:35:53.6
 01:35:53.6 00:50:26.7
00:08:31.0
INFORMACIÓN SOBRE TC 6
retired (82 - Souček Stanislav / Kretík Tomáš): retired before SS 6
retired (35 - Baltes Michael / Kraus Christoph): retired before SS 6
retired (14 - Magoss Péter / Kincses Erika): technical problem after SS 6
retired (83 - Brodský Luděk / Brodská Petra): technical problem in SS 6
retired (80 - Dorčíková Michaela / Kalábek Jiří): technical problem in SS 6 - engine
retired (16 - Ronay Richard / Ronay Lucie): technical problem in SS 6 - electricity
retired (9 - Farris Sergio / Spagnoli Roberto): technical problem in SS 6 - engine