Rallye Monte Carlo 2013

Rallye Monte Carlo 2013


13. 01. 2013 - 20. 01. 2013

Неофициални резултати
Извлечение за групите: Всички
СЕ 5 - Labatie D'Andaure - Lalouvesc 1
Дължина на СЕ: 19.08km
Място Стартов номер Пилот / Навигатор
Автомобил
Група Време за СЕ Средна скорост
Секунда на километър
Разлика с водача
Разлика с предния в класирането
1 8
FRA
Ogier S. / Ingrassia J.
Volkswagen Polo R WRC
WRC 00:14:22.3 79.66
0.00
00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 5
RUS
Novikov Evgeny / Minor Ilka
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
WRC 00:14:25.2 79.39
0.15
00:00:02.9
00:00:02.9
3 1
FRA
Loeb Sébastien / Elena Daniel
Citroën DS3 WRC
WRC 00:14:27.7 79.16
0.28
00:00:05.4
00:00:02.5
4 10
ESP
Sordo Dani / Del Barrio C.
Citroën DS3 WRC
WRC 00:14:32.9 78.69
0.56
00:00:10.6
00:00:05.2
5 4
NOR
Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
WRC 00:14:33.5 78.64
0.59
00:00:11.2
00:00:00.6
6 6
FIN
Hänninen Juho / Tuominen Tomi
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
WRC 00:14:39.0 78.14
0.88
00:00:16.7
00:00:05.5
7 22
FRA
Bouffier Bryan / Panseri Xavier
Citroën DS3 WRC
WRC 00:14:40.1 78.05
0.93
00:00:17.8
00:00:01.1
8 2
FIN
Hirvonen Mikko / Lehtinen Jarmo
Citroën DS3 WRC
WRC 00:14:43.2 77.77
1.10
00:00:20.9
00:00:03.1
9 7
FIN
Latvala J. / Anttila Miikka
Volkswagen Polo R WRC
WRC 00:14:54.1 76.82
1.67
00:00:31.8
00:00:10.9
10 24
FRA
Maurin Julien / Klinger Nicolas
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
WRC 00:15:12.1 75.31
2.61
00:00:49.8
00:00:18.0
11 12
POL
Kościuszko M. / Szczepaniak M.
Mini John Cooper Works WRC
WRC 00:15:14.3 75.13
2.73
00:00:52.0
00:00:02.2
12 21
CZE
Prokop Martin / Ernst Michal
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
WRC 00:15:23.7 74.36
3.22
00:01:01.4
00:00:09.4
13 32
DEU
Wiegand Sepp / Christian Frank
Škoda Fabia S2000
2 00:15:46.1 72.60
4.39
00:01:23.8
00:00:22.4
14 37
ITA
Bertelli L. / Granai Lorenzo
Subaru Impreza STI
3 00:15:51.1 72.22
4.65
00:01:28.8
00:00:05.0
15 42
CHE
Burri Olivier / Duval Guillaume
Peugeot 207 S2000
2 00:15:52.3 72.13
4.72
00:01:30.0
00:00:01.2
16 33
DEU
Kremer Armin / Wicha Klaus
Subaru Impreza STI
3 00:15:54.0 72.00
4.81
00:01:31.7
00:00:01.7
17 36
ARE
Al Ketbi Rashid / Hepperle Karina
Škoda Fabia S2000
2 00:16:00.0 71.55
5.12
00:01:37.7
00:00:06.0
18 46
FRA
Raoux J. / Magat Laurent
Peugeot 207 S2000
2 00:16:04.6 71.21
5.36
00:01:42.3
00:00:04.6
19 39
UKR
Protasov Yuriy / Sikk Kuldar
Subaru Impreza R4
2 00:16:06.8 71.05
5.48
00:01:44.5
00:00:02.2
20 47
IRL
Boland Eamonn / Morrissey M.
Subaru Impreza Sti R4
2 00:16:20.0 70.09
6.17
00:01:57.7
00:00:13.2
21 65
FRA
Carret Claude / Mathias Olivier
Subaru Impreza STI
3 00:16:40.7 68.64
7.25
00:02:18.4
00:00:20.7
22 75
FRA
Aymard Jérôme / Aymard Bouix S.
Subaru Impreza STI
3 00:16:48.7 68.10
7.67
00:02:26.4
00:00:08.0
23 81
FRA
Caillet C. / Aubeuf Benjamin
Renault Clio R3
5 00:16:49.1 68.07
7.69
00:02:26.8
00:00:00.4
24 95
FRA
Baud Lionel / Ramel Cindy
Peugeot 208 R2
6 00:16:51.2 67.93
7.80
00:02:28.9
00:00:02.1
25 38
MEX
Triviño R. / Haro Alex
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
3 00:16:52.1 67.87
7.85
00:02:29.8
00:00:00.9
26 72
FRA
Foulon Alain / Nicolet C.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
3 00:16:55.3 67.65
8.02
00:02:33.0
00:00:03.2
27 53
FRA
Poutot Renaud / Viragh Ludovic
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:17:01.3 67.26
8.33
00:02:39.0
00:00:06.0
28 103
FRA
Ripert Julien / Belle Jérôme
Citroën C2 R2 Max
6 00:17:03.3 67.12
8.44
00:02:41.0
00:00:02.0
29 83
ITA
Crugnola Andrea / Ferrara Michele
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:17:04.3 67.06
8.49
00:02:42.0
00:00:01.0
30 88
FRA
Ressegaire N. / Arnaud Jonathan
Renault Clio R3
5 00:17:06.2 66.93
8.59
00:02:43.9
00:00:01.9
31 86
FRA
Maurage Mathieu / Levratti A.
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:17:07.0 66.88
8.63
00:02:44.7
00:00:00.8
32 77
FRA
Bect Fabrice / Lambert Mathieu
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:17:08.7 66.77
8.72
00:02:46.4
00:00:01.7
33 100
FRA
Métiffiot S. / Métiffiot P.
Citroën C2 R2 Max
6 00:17:11.3 66.60
8.86
00:02:49.0
00:00:02.6
34 94
FRA
Panciatici N. / Padovani René
Renault Twingo R2
6 00:17:14.4 66.40
9.02
00:02:52.1
00:00:03.1
35 51
FRA
Chardonnet S. / De La Haye T.
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:17:14.6 66.39
9.03
00:02:52.3
00:00:00.2
36 92
FRA
Julia David / Aubertin L.
Peugeot 206 RC
5 00:17:15.1 66.36
9.06
00:02:52.8
00:00:00.5
37 101
FRA
Monnet Arnaud / Barge Pierre
Peugeot 208 R2
6 00:17:20.0 66.05
9.31
00:02:57.7
00:00:04.9
38 27
ITA
Vallario Marco / Di Lorenzo M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
3 00:17:26.5 65.64
9.65
00:03:04.2
00:00:06.5
39 102
FRA
Perret Yoann / Delcambre J.
Peugeot 208 R2
6 00:17:29.3 65.46
9.80
00:03:07.0
00:00:02.8
40 98
CHE
Cornuz C. / Cornuz Sylvain
Ford Fiesta R2
6 00:17:29.7 65.44
9.82
00:03:07.4
00:00:00.4
41 111
FRA
Fontaine C. / Colas Yvon
Suzuki Swift Sport
9 00:17:31.0 65.35
9.89
00:03:08.7
00:00:01.3
42 106
CZE
Rada Martin / Jugas Jaroslav
Alfa Romeo 147
8 00:17:33.3 65.21
10.01
00:03:11.0
00:00:02.3
43 99
CHE
Droxler Sylvain / Eicher Agnès
Ford Fiesta R2
6 00:17:35.6 65.07
10.13
00:03:13.3
00:00:02.3
44 93
CHE
Vukasovic L. / Groux Steve
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:17:37.2 64.97
10.21
00:03:14.9
00:00:01.6
45 113
FRA
Petiet Cédric / Amoros Cédric
Renault Twingo R1
9 00:17:41.0 64.74
10.41
00:03:18.7
00:00:03.8
46 68
FRA
Chevallard P. / Pailhes Gérard
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX
3 00:17:41.6 64.70
10.45
00:03:19.3
00:00:00.6
47 64
ESP
Font Joan / Julià Oriol
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
3 00:17:46.8 64.39
10.72
00:03:24.5
00:00:05.2
48 87
FRA
Michal Fabien / Michal Arnaud
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:17:48.6 64.28
10.81
00:03:26.3
00:00:01.8
49 108
FRA
Dard Thierry / Pasquion L.
Citroën DS3 R1
9 00:17:51.2 64.12
10.95
00:03:28.9
00:00:02.6
50 91
FRA
Vialle Lilian / Ghirardello M.
Renault Clio R3
5 00:18:00.5 63.57
11.44
00:03:38.2
00:00:09.3
51 67
ITA
Covi Carlo / Campesan G.
Subaru Impreza STI
3 00:18:02.1 63.48
11.52
00:03:39.8
00:00:01.6
52 79
ITA
Blanc Marco / Mometti Roberto
Renault Clio R3
5 00:18:02.9 63.43
11.56
00:03:40.6
00:00:00.8
53 70
FRA
Baudouin Miguel / Pons Bruno
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
3 00:18:03.2 63.41
11.58
00:03:40.9
00:00:00.3
54 66
ESP
Pérez Fojón A. / Cue Daniel
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
3 00:18:06.7 63.21
11.76
00:03:44.4
00:00:03.5
55 97
ITA
Cali' G. / Raccuia Sergio
Citroën C2 R2 Max
6 00:18:17.6 62.58
12.33
00:03:55.3
00:00:10.9
56 85
FRA
Galleano Y. / Tourn Florent
Citroën DS3 R3T
5 00:18:37.8 61.45
13.39
00:04:15.5
00:00:20.2
57 61
JPN
Saito Ryoso / Loudon Stuart
Subaru Impreza STI
3 00:19:11.4 59.66
15.15
00:04:49.1
00:00:33.6
58 109
MCO
Dessi Marc / Dessi Vanessa
Suzuki Swift Sport
9 00:19:35.1 58.45
16.39
00:05:12.8
00:00:23.7
59 84
GRC
Drivakos D. / Bante Ekaterini
Honda Civic Type R3
5 00:19:36.6 58.38
16.47
00:05:14.3
00:00:01.5
60 96
FRA
Bensimon Claude / Guglielmi M.
Citroën C2 R2 Max
6 00:19:55.3 57.47
17.45
00:05:33.0
00:00:18.7
61 107
FRA
Cartery Fabian / Roux Mathieu
Suzuki Swift Sport
9 00:20:21.7 56.22
18.84
00:05:59.4
00:00:26.4
62 112
DEU
Henkel Nils / Schwalie A.
Suzuki Swift Sport
9 00:21:51.9 52.36
23.56
00:07:29.6
00:01:30.2
Място Стартов номер
Пилот / Навигатор
Автомобил
Място Време за СЕ
Наказание
Неофициални резултати Разлика с водача
Разлика с предния в класирането
1 8
FRA

Ogier S. / Ingrassia J.
Volkswagen Polo R WRC 
WRC
1
00:14:22.3
00:14:22.3 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 5
RUS

Novikov Evgeny / Minor Ilka
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
WRC
2
00:14:25.2
00:14:25.2 00:00:02.9
00:00:02.9
3 1
FRA

Loeb Sébastien / Elena Daniel
Citroën DS3 WRC 
WRC
3
00:14:27.7
00:14:27.7 00:00:05.4
00:00:02.5
4 10
ESP

Sordo Dani / Del Barrio C.
Citroën DS3 WRC 
WRC
4
00:14:32.9
00:14:32.9 00:00:10.6
00:00:05.2
5 4
NOR

Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
WRC
5
00:14:33.5
00:14:33.5 00:00:11.2
00:00:00.6
6 6
FIN

Hänninen Juho / Tuominen Tomi
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
WRC
6
00:14:39.0
00:14:39.0 00:00:16.7
00:00:05.5
7 22
FRA

Bouffier Bryan / Panseri Xavier
Citroën DS3 WRC 
WRC
7
00:14:40.1
00:14:40.1 00:00:17.8
00:00:01.1
8 2
FIN

Hirvonen Mikko / Lehtinen Jarmo
Citroën DS3 WRC 
WRC
8
00:14:43.2
00:14:43.2 00:00:20.9
00:00:03.1
9 7
FIN

Latvala J. / Anttila Miikka
Volkswagen Polo R WRC 
WRC
9
00:14:54.1
00:14:54.1 00:00:31.8
00:00:10.9
10 24
FRA

Maurin Julien / Klinger Nicolas
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
WRC
10
00:15:12.1
00:15:12.1 00:00:49.8
00:00:18.0
11 12
POL

Kościuszko M. / Szczepaniak M.
Mini John Cooper Works WRC 
WRC
11
00:15:14.3
00:15:14.3 00:00:52.0
00:00:02.2
12 21
CZE

Prokop Martin / Ernst Michal
Ford Fiesta RS WRC 
WRC
12
00:15:23.7
00:15:23.7 00:01:01.4
00:00:09.4
13 32
DEU

Wiegand Sepp / Christian Frank
Škoda Fabia S2000 
2
1
00:15:46.1
00:15:46.1 00:01:23.8
00:00:22.4
14 37
ITA

Bertelli L. / Granai Lorenzo
Subaru Impreza STI 
3
1
00:15:51.1
00:15:51.1 00:01:28.8
00:00:05.0
15 42
CHE

Burri Olivier / Duval Guillaume
Peugeot 207 S2000 
2
2
00:15:52.3
00:15:52.3 00:01:30.0
00:00:01.2
16 33
DEU

Kremer Armin / Wicha Klaus
Subaru Impreza STI 
3
2
00:15:54.0
00:15:54.0 00:01:31.7
00:00:01.7
17 36
ARE

Al Ketbi Rashid / Hepperle Karina
Škoda Fabia S2000 
2
3
00:16:00.0
00:16:00.0 00:01:37.7
00:00:06.0
18 46
FRA

Raoux J. / Magat Laurent
Peugeot 207 S2000 
2
4
00:16:04.6
00:16:04.6 00:01:42.3
00:00:04.6
19 39
UKR

Protasov Yuriy / Sikk Kuldar
Subaru Impreza R4 
2
5
00:16:06.8
00:16:06.8 00:01:44.5
00:00:02.2
20 47
IRL

Boland Eamonn / Morrissey M.
Subaru Impreza Sti R4 
2
6
00:16:20.0
00:16:20.0 00:01:57.7
00:00:13.2
21 65
FRA

Carret Claude / Mathias Olivier
Subaru Impreza STI 
3
3
00:16:40.7
00:16:40.7 00:02:18.4
00:00:20.7
22 81
FRA

Caillet C. / Aubeuf Benjamin
Renault Clio R3 
5
1
00:16:49.1
00:16:49.1 00:02:26.8
00:00:08.4
23 95
FRA

Baud Lionel / Ramel Cindy
Peugeot 208 R2 
6
1
00:16:51.2
00:16:51.2 00:02:28.9
00:00:02.1
24 38
MEX

Triviño R. / Haro Alex
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX 
3
4
00:16:52.1
00:16:52.1 00:02:29.8
00:00:00.9
25 72
FRA

Foulon Alain / Nicolet C.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
3
5
00:16:55.3
00:16:55.3 00:02:33.0
00:00:03.2
26 53
FRA

Poutot Renaud / Viragh Ludovic
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
2
00:17:01.3
00:17:01.3 00:02:39.0
00:00:06.0
27 103
FRA

Ripert Julien / Belle Jérôme
Citroën C2 R2 Max 
6
2
00:17:03.3
00:17:03.3 00:02:41.0
00:00:02.0
28 83
ITA

Crugnola Andrea / Ferrara Michele
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
3
00:17:04.3
00:17:04.3 00:02:42.0
00:00:01.0
29 88
FRA

Ressegaire N. / Arnaud Jonathan
Renault Clio R3 
5
4
00:17:06.2
00:17:06.2 00:02:43.9
00:00:01.9
30 86
FRA

Maurage Mathieu / Levratti A.
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
5
00:17:07.0
00:17:07.0 00:02:44.7
00:00:00.8
31 77
FRA

Bect Fabrice / Lambert Mathieu
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
6
00:17:08.7
00:17:08.7 00:02:46.4
00:00:01.7
32 100
FRA

Métiffiot S. / Métiffiot P.
Citroën C2 R2 Max 
6
3
00:17:11.3
00:17:11.3 00:02:49.0
00:00:02.6
33 94
FRA

Panciatici N. / Padovani René
Renault Twingo R2 
6
4
00:17:14.4
00:17:14.4 00:02:52.1
00:00:03.1
34 51
FRA

Chardonnet S. / De La Haye T.
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
7
00:17:14.6
00:17:14.6 00:02:52.3
00:00:00.2
35 92
FRA

Julia David / Aubertin L.
Peugeot 206 RC 
5
8
00:17:15.1
00:17:15.1 00:02:52.8
00:00:00.5
36 101
FRA

Monnet Arnaud / Barge Pierre
Peugeot 208 R2 
6
5
00:17:20.0
00:17:20.0 00:02:57.7
00:00:04.9
37 27
ITA

Vallario Marco / Di Lorenzo M.
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
3
6
00:17:26.5
00:17:26.5 00:03:04.2
00:00:06.5
38 102
FRA

Perret Yoann / Delcambre J.
Peugeot 208 R2 
6
6
00:17:29.3
00:17:29.3 00:03:07.0
00:00:02.8
39 98
CHE

Cornuz C. / Cornuz Sylvain
Ford Fiesta R2 
6
7
00:17:29.7
00:17:29.7 00:03:07.4
00:00:00.4
40 111
FRA

Fontaine C. / Colas Yvon
Suzuki Swift Sport 
9
1
00:17:31.0
00:17:31.0 00:03:08.7
00:00:01.3
41 106
CZE

Rada Martin / Jugas Jaroslav
Alfa Romeo 147 
8
1
00:17:33.3
00:17:33.3 00:03:11.0
00:00:02.3
42 99
CHE

Droxler Sylvain / Eicher Agnès
Ford Fiesta R2 
6
8
00:17:35.6
00:17:35.6 00:03:13.3
00:00:02.3
43 93
CHE

Vukasovic L. / Groux Steve
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
9
00:17:37.2
00:17:37.2 00:03:14.9
00:00:01.6
44 113
FRA

Petiet Cédric / Amoros Cédric
Renault Twingo R1 
9
2
00:17:41.0
00:17:41.0 00:03:18.7
00:00:03.8
45 68
FRA

Chevallard P. / Pailhes Gérard
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX 
3
7
00:17:41.6
00:17:41.6 00:03:19.3
00:00:00.6
46 64
ESP

Font Joan / Julià Oriol
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
3
8
00:17:46.8
00:17:46.8 00:03:24.5
00:00:05.2
47 87
FRA

Michal Fabien / Michal Arnaud
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
10
00:17:48.6
00:17:48.6 00:03:26.3
00:00:01.8
48 108
FRA

Dard Thierry / Pasquion L.
Citroën DS3 R1 
9
3
00:17:51.2
00:17:51.2 00:03:28.9
00:00:02.6
49 91
FRA

Vialle Lilian / Ghirardello M.
Renault Clio R3 
5
11
00:18:00.5
00:18:00.5 00:03:38.2
00:00:09.3
50 67
ITA

Covi Carlo / Campesan G.
Subaru Impreza STI 
3
9
00:18:02.1
00:18:02.1 00:03:39.8
00:00:01.6
51 79
ITA

Blanc Marco / Mometti Roberto
Renault Clio R3 
5
12
00:18:02.9
00:18:02.9 00:03:40.6
00:00:00.8
52 70
FRA

Baudouin Miguel / Pons Bruno
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
3
10
00:18:03.2
00:18:03.2 00:03:40.9
00:00:00.3
53 66
ESP

Pérez Fojón A. / Cue Daniel
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
3
11
00:18:06.7
00:18:06.7 00:03:44.4
00:00:03.5
54 97
ITA

Cali' G. / Raccuia Sergio
Citroën C2 R2 Max 
6
9
00:18:17.6
00:18:17.6 00:03:55.3
00:00:10.9
55 85
FRA

Galleano Y. / Tourn Florent
Citroën DS3 R3T 
5
13
00:18:37.8
00:18:37.8 00:04:15.5
00:00:20.2
56 61
JPN

Saito Ryoso / Loudon Stuart
Subaru Impreza STI 
3
12
00:19:11.4
00:19:11.4 00:04:49.1
00:00:33.6
57 109
MCO

Dessi Marc / Dessi Vanessa
Suzuki Swift Sport 
9
4
00:19:35.1
00:19:35.1 00:05:12.8
00:00:23.7
58 84
GRC

Drivakos D. / Bante Ekaterini
Honda Civic Type R3 
5
14
00:19:36.6
00:19:36.6 00:05:14.3
00:00:01.5
59 96
FRA

Bensimon Claude / Guglielmi M.
Citroën C2 R2 Max 
6
10
00:19:55.3
00:19:55.3 00:05:33.0
00:00:18.7
60 107
FRA

Cartery Fabian / Roux Mathieu
Suzuki Swift Sport 
9
5
00:20:21.7
00:20:21.7 00:05:59.4
00:00:26.4
61 75
FRA

Aymard Jérôme / Aymard Bouix S.
Subaru Impreza STI 
3
13
00:16:48.7
00:04:00.0
00:20:48.7 00:06:26.4
00:00:27.0
62 112
DEU

Henkel Nils / Schwalie A.
Suzuki Swift Sport 
9
6
00:21:51.9
00:21:51.9 00:07:29.6
00:01:03.2
Информация за СЕ 5
(53 - Poutot Renaud / Viragh Ludovic): rolled
flash info (12 - Kościuszko Michał / Szczepaniak Maciej): Today it is very good. It is my first stage in proper WRC car. It is ok, we are in the finish of the stage.
flash info (24 - Maurin Julien / Klinger Nicolas): Very nice stage, lot of snow. I am feeling better and enjoying the driving.
flash info (21 - Prokop Martin / Ernst Michal): You need to concentrate to every corner. Last few kms were nice with lot of fresh snow, but beginning and in the middle was very difficult with ice.
flash info (6 - Hänninen Juho / Tuominen Tomi): It was quite snowy stage, I am still learning with the car in this conditions.
flash info (22 - Bouffier Bryan / Panseri Xavier): It was very nice to drive in this conditions, it is fun to drive in full snow. I try to drive well.
flash info (4 - Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas): This should suit me more, but I was struggling a lot. Sometimes there is no grip so I must look for places to find it. It is difficult.
flash info (5 - Novikov Evgeny / Minor Ilka): It was not bad, yesterday I was driving too careful so I decided to go faster. I enjoy the driving.
flash info (7 - Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka): There is lot of snow, I have hit some pole, so front right is little bit damage. I am not going very well on snow, that is not good.
flash info (10 - Sordo Dani / Del Barrio Carlos): I must say it is better than yesterday, there is more snow and grip is same all the time. I am still learning with the car.
flash info (2 - Hirvonen Mikko / Lehtinen Jarmo): I dont know what I am doing wrong. All the time when it is narrow and slippery I cannot go anywhere..... It is about confidence. I dont know why I am so slow. Not good at all.
flash info (8 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): Great start, good conditions, very slippery but fun to drive.
flash info (1 - Loeb Sébastien / Elena Daniel): End of stage is really nice, it is full of snow, everything white, sun is shining. I dont like to be first of the road, but ok. I had a good stage, no mistakes.
Conditions on SS: first 6 kms dry with some ice, rest is snow