Rally Liepaja 2021

Rally Liepaja 2021


01. 07. 2021 - 03. 07. 2021

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BI 1 - SC Grupa/Eurovia
Duljina BI: 27.00km
Poz. Broj Vozač / Suvozač
Automobil
Grupa Vrijeme BI Prosječna brzina
sek/km
Razlika za vodečim
Razlika za prijašnjim
1 11
LVA
Gryazin Nikolay / Aleksandrov K.
Volkswagen Polo Gti R5
RC2 00:14:20.8 112.92
0.00
00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 2
NOR
Mikkelsen A. / Fløene Ola
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:14:22.7 112.67
0.07
00:00:01.9
00:00:01.9
3 6
ESP
Llarena Efrén / Fernandez Sara
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:14:22.8 112.66
0.07
00:00:02.0
00:00:00.1
4 10
IRL
Breen Craig / Nagle Paul
Hyundai i20 R5
RC2 00:14:25.6 112.29
0.18
00:00:04.8
00:00:02.8
5 3
POL
Marczyk Miko / Gospodarczyk S.
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:14:28.8 111.88
0.30
00:00:08.0
00:00:03.2
6 1
RUS
Lukyanuk Alexey / Eremeev Dmitry
Citroën C3 Rally2
RC2 00:14:31.6 111.52
0.40
00:00:10.8
00:00:02.8
7 18
DEU
Kreim Fabian / Christian Frank
Volkswagen Polo Gti R5
RC2 00:14:34.3 111.17
0.50
00:00:13.5
00:00:02.7
8 16
NOR
Veiby O. / Andersson Jonas
Hyundai i20 R5
RC2 00:14:34.7 111.12
0.51
00:00:13.9
00:00:00.4
9 4
ESP
Solans Nil / Martí Marc
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:14:37.6 110.76
0.62
00:00:16.8
00:00:02.9
10 14
IRL
Devine Callum / Fulton James
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII
RC2 00:14:39.3 110.54
0.69
00:00:18.5
00:00:01.7
11 9
CHL
Fernàndez E. / García Rubén
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:14:40.5 110.39
0.73
00:00:19.7
00:00:01.2
12 19
EST
Linnamäe Georg / Korsia V.
Volkswagen Polo Gti R5
RC2 00:14:41.9 110.22
0.78
00:00:21.1
00:00:01.4
13 22
EST
Jeets Raul / Taniel Timo
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:14:52.3 108.93
1.17
00:00:31.5
00:00:10.4
14 17
FIN
Pietarinen E. / Linnaketo Antti
Škoda Fabia R5
RC2 00:14:53.6 108.77
1.21
00:00:32.8
00:00:01.3
15 21
ROU
Tempestini S. / Itu Sergiu
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:14:55.3 108.57
1.28
00:00:34.5
00:00:01.7
16 8
CZE
Cais Erik / Žáková J.
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII
RC2 00:14:55.4 108.55
1.28
00:00:34.6
00:00:00.1
17 12
ITA
Scandola U. / D'Amore Guido
Hyundai i20 R5
RC2 00:15:03.3 107.61
1.57
00:00:42.5
00:00:07.9
18 29
ITA
Battistolli A. / Scattolin S.
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:15:03.6 107.57
1.59
00:00:42.8
00:00:00.3
19 5
HUN
Herczig Norbert / Ferencz Ramón
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:15:04.9 107.42
1.63
00:00:44.1
00:00:01.3
20 23
IRL
McCourt Cathan / Hoy Brian
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII
RC2 00:15:06.4 107.24
1.69
00:00:45.6
00:00:01.5
21 61
LTU
Notkus Giedrius / Šimins Artūrs
Škoda Fabia R5
RC2 00:15:06.9 107.18
1.71
00:00:46.1
00:00:00.5
22 7
FRA
Bonato Yoann / Boulloud B.
Citroën C3 Rally2
RC2 00:15:13.7 106.38
1.96
00:00:52.9
00:00:06.8
23 24
POL
Kołtun J. / Pleskot I.
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII
RC2 00:15:16.3 106.08
2.06
00:00:55.5
00:00:02.6
24 25
RUS
Shaymiev Radik / Tsvetkov Maxim
Hyundai i20 R5
RC2 00:15:24.2 105.17
2.35
00:01:03.4
00:00:07.9
25 32
EST
Torn Ken / Pannas Kauri
Ford Fiesta Rally3
RC3 00:15:26.4 104.92
2.43
00:01:05.6
00:00:02.2
26 30
SWE
Stugemo Lars / Lexe Karl-Olof
Škoda Fabia R5
RC2 00:15:30.3 104.48
2.57
00:01:09.5
00:00:03.9
27 36
HUN
Érdi T. / Csökő Zoltán
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
RC2 00:15:33.1 104.17
2.68
00:01:12.3
00:00:02.8
28
/
RC2 00:15:41.7 103.22
3.00
00:01:20.9
00:00:08.6
29 27
IRL
Mitchell Jason / Ward Peter
Ford Fiesta R5
RC2 00:15:41.9 103.20
3.00
00:01:21.1
00:00:00.2
30 33
NOR
Solberg Oscar / Furniss Dale
Ford Fiesta Rally3
RC3 00:15:45.0 102.86
3.12
00:01:24.2
00:00:03.1
31 49
FRA
Franceschi J. / Gorguilo A.
Renault Clio Rally4
RC4 00:15:50.0 102.32
3.30
00:01:29.2
00:00:05.0
32 35
FRA
Cartier Victor / Craen Fabien
Toyota Yaris R4
RC2 00:15:52.4 102.06
3.39
00:01:31.6
00:00:02.4
33 41
FIN
Pajari Sami / Salminen Marko
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:15:53.6 101.93
3.44
00:01:32.8
00:00:01.2
34 26
ESP
Vilariño Luis / Murado José
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:15:59.5 101.30
3.66
00:01:38.7
00:00:05.9
35 42
ESP
Bassas Josep / Coronado Axel
Peugeot 208 Rally4
RC4 00:16:00.0 101.25
3.67
00:01:39.2
00:00:00.5
- 62
LTU
Sluckus Jonas / Šileikis G.
Škoda Fabia R5
RC2 00:16:00.0 101.25
3.67
00:01:39.2
00:00:00.0
37 31
PRT
Monteiro A. / Eiró Sancho
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo
RC2 00:16:00.9 101.16
3.71
00:01:40.1
00:00:00.9
38 48
LVA
Sesks M. / Francis Renārs
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:16:02.9 100.95
3.78
00:01:42.1
00:00:02.0
39 51
NOR
Nore Ola jun. / Eriksen Jørgen
Renault Clio Rally4
RC4 00:16:03.2 100.91
3.79
00:01:42.4
00:00:00.3
40 37
POL
Pryczek Michał / Pryczek Jacek
Subaru Impreza STI
RC2 00:16:05.3 100.69
3.87
00:01:44.5
00:00:02.1
41 40
POL
Poloński D. / Sitek Łukasz
Fiat 124 Abarth RGT
RGT 00:16:12.7 99.93
4.14
00:01:51.9
00:00:07.4
42 43
ROU
Maior Norbert / Maior Francesca
Peugeot 208 Rally4
RC4 00:16:17.0 99.49
4.30
00:01:56.2
00:00:04.3
43 46
EST
Kasari Kaspar / Raidma Rainis
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:16:24.3 98.75
4.57
00:02:03.5
00:00:07.3
44 44
DEU
Loof Nick / Magalhães Hugo
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:16:26.0 98.58
4.64
00:02:05.2
00:00:01.7
45 38
LVA
Igaveņš A. / Igaveņš Ralfs
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X
RC2 00:16:28.0 98.38
4.71
00:02:07.2
00:00:02.0
46 47
CZE
Polášek D. / Janovská K.
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:16:40.2 97.18
5.16
00:02:19.4
00:00:12.2
47 28
POL
Widłak Igor / Dymurski Daniel
Ford Fiesta Rally3
RC3 00:16:40.4 97.16
5.17
00:02:19.6
00:00:00.2
48 60
TUR
Timur Y. / Aslan Onur
Renault Clio Rally5
RC5 00:16:43.0 96.91
5.27
00:02:22.2
00:00:02.6
49 20
HUN
László Z. / Kovács A.
Ford Fiesta Rally3
RC3 00:16:46.4 96.58
5.39
00:02:25.6
00:00:03.4
50 15
LUX
Munster G. / Louka Louis
Hyundai i20 R5
RC2 00:16:54.6 95.80
5.70
00:02:33.8
00:00:08.2
51 55
BEL
Molle Amaury / Barral Florian
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:17:03.3 94.99
6.02
00:02:42.5
00:00:08.7
52 59
ITA
Mabellini A. / Lenzi Virginia
Renault Clio Rally5
RC5 00:17:06.6 94.68
6.14
00:02:45.8
00:00:03.3
53 57
FRA
Rossi Ghjuvanni / Volpei Baptiste
Renault Clio Rally5
RC5 00:17:07.4 94.61
6.17
00:02:46.6
00:00:00.8
54 58
FRA
Bergounhe B. / Descharne M.
Renault Clio Rally5
RC5 00:17:07.6 94.59
6.18
00:02:46.8
00:00:00.2
55 52
HUN
László Martin / Berendi Dávid
Peugeot 208 Rally4
RC4 00:17:07.9 94.56
6.19
00:02:47.1
00:00:00.3
56 53
EST
Nõgene J. / Koskinen Simo
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:17:27.3 92.81
6.91
00:03:06.5
00:00:19.4
57 50
AUT
Landa Nikolai / Landa Günter
Ford Fiesta Rally4
RC4 00:17:45.9 91.19
7.60
00:03:25.1
00:00:18.6
58 39
CZE
Rada Martin / Jugas Jaroslav
Fiat 124 Abarth RGT
RGT 00:18:07.5 89.38
8.40
00:03:46.7
00:00:21.6
59 45
POL
Lewandowski Ł. / Sadowski Adrian
Opel Corsa Rally4
RC4 00:19:50.1 81.67
12.20
00:05:29.3
00:01:42.6
60 56
ARG
Soria Paulo / Der Ohannesian M.
Renault Clio Rally5
RC5 00:26:43.0 60.64
27.49
00:12:22.2
00:06:52.9
Poz. Broj
Vozač / Suvozač
Automobil
Poz. Vrijeme BI
Kazna
Ukupno vrijeme Razlika za vodečim
Razlika za prijašnjim
1 11
LVA

Gryazin Nikolay / Aleksandrov K.
Volkswagen Polo Gti R5 
RC2
1
00:14:20.8
00:14:20.8 00:00:00.0
00:00:00.0
2 2
NOR

Mikkelsen A. / Fløene Ola
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
2
00:14:22.7
00:14:22.7 00:00:01.9
00:00:01.9
3 6
ESP

Llarena Efrén / Fernandez Sara
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
3
00:14:22.8
00:14:22.8 00:00:02.0
00:00:00.1
4 10
IRL

Breen Craig / Nagle Paul
Hyundai i20 R5 
RC2
4
00:14:25.6
00:14:25.6 00:00:04.8
00:00:02.8
5 3
POL

Marczyk Miko / Gospodarczyk S.
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
5
00:14:28.8
00:14:28.8 00:00:08.0
00:00:03.2
6 1
RUS

Lukyanuk Alexey / Eremeev Dmitry
Citroën C3 Rally2 
RC2
6
00:14:31.6
00:14:31.6 00:00:10.8
00:00:02.8
7 18
DEU

Kreim Fabian / Christian Frank
Volkswagen Polo Gti R5 
RC2
7
00:14:34.3
00:14:34.3 00:00:13.5
00:00:02.7
8 16
NOR

Veiby O. / Andersson Jonas
Hyundai i20 R5 
RC2
8
00:14:34.7
00:14:34.7 00:00:13.9
00:00:00.4
9 4
ESP

Solans Nil / Martí Marc
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
9
00:14:37.6
00:14:37.6 00:00:16.8
00:00:02.9
10 14
IRL

Devine Callum / Fulton James
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII 
RC2
10
00:14:39.3
00:14:39.3 00:00:18.5
00:00:01.7
11 9
CHL

Fernàndez E. / García Rubén
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
11
00:14:40.5
00:14:40.5 00:00:19.7
00:00:01.2
12 19
EST

Linnamäe Georg / Korsia V.
Volkswagen Polo Gti R5 
RC2
12
00:14:41.9
00:14:41.9 00:00:21.1
00:00:01.4
13 22
EST

Jeets Raul / Taniel Timo
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
13
00:14:52.3
00:14:52.3 00:00:31.5
00:00:10.4
14 17
FIN

Pietarinen E. / Linnaketo Antti
Škoda Fabia R5 
RC2
14
00:14:53.6
00:14:53.6 00:00:32.8
00:00:01.3
15 21
ROU

Tempestini S. / Itu Sergiu
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
15
00:14:55.3
00:14:55.3 00:00:34.5
00:00:01.7
16 8
CZE

Cais Erik / Žáková J.
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII 
RC2
16
00:14:55.4
00:14:55.4 00:00:34.6
00:00:00.1
17 12
ITA

Scandola U. / D'Amore Guido
Hyundai i20 R5 
RC2
17
00:15:03.3
00:15:03.3 00:00:42.5
00:00:07.9
18 29
ITA

Battistolli A. / Scattolin S.
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
18
00:15:03.6
00:15:03.6 00:00:42.8
00:00:00.3
19 5
HUN

Herczig Norbert / Ferencz Ramón
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
19
00:15:04.9
00:15:04.9 00:00:44.1
00:00:01.3
20 23
IRL

McCourt Cathan / Hoy Brian
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII 
RC2
20
00:15:06.4
00:15:06.4 00:00:45.6
00:00:01.5
21 61
LTU

Notkus Giedrius / Šimins Artūrs
Škoda Fabia R5 
RC2
21
00:15:06.9
00:15:06.9 00:00:46.1
00:00:00.5
22 7
FRA

Bonato Yoann / Boulloud B.
Citroën C3 Rally2 
RC2
22
00:15:13.7
00:15:13.7 00:00:52.9
00:00:06.8
23 24
POL

Kołtun J. / Pleskot I.
Ford Fiesta R5 MkII 
RC2
23
00:15:16.3
00:15:16.3 00:00:55.5
00:00:02.6
24 25
RUS

Shaymiev Radik / Tsvetkov Maxim
Hyundai i20 R5 
RC2
24
00:15:24.2
00:15:24.2 00:01:03.4
00:00:07.9
25 32
EST

Torn Ken / Pannas Kauri
Ford Fiesta Rally3 
RC3
1
00:15:26.4
00:15:26.4 00:01:05.6
00:00:02.2
26 30
SWE

Stugemo Lars / Lexe Karl-Olof
Škoda Fabia R5 
RC2
25
00:15:30.3
00:15:30.3 00:01:09.5
00:00:03.9
27 36
HUN

Érdi T. / Csökő Zoltán
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
RC2
26
00:15:33.1
00:15:33.1 00:01:12.3
00:00:02.8
28

/
 
RC2
27
00:15:41.7
00:15:41.7 00:01:20.9
00:00:08.6
29 27
IRL

Mitchell Jason / Ward Peter
Ford Fiesta R5 
RC2
28
00:15:41.9
00:15:41.9 00:01:21.1
00:00:00.2
30 33
NOR

Solberg Oscar / Furniss Dale
Ford Fiesta Rally3 
RC3
2
00:15:45.0
00:15:45.0 00:01:24.2
00:00:03.1
31 49
FRA

Franceschi J. / Gorguilo A.
Renault Clio Rally4 
RC4
1
00:15:50.0
00:15:50.0 00:01:29.2
00:00:05.0
32 35
FRA

Cartier Victor / Craen Fabien
Toyota Yaris R4 
RC2
29
00:15:52.4
00:15:52.4 00:01:31.6
00:00:02.4
33 41
FIN

Pajari Sami / Salminen Marko
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
2
00:15:53.6
00:15:53.6 00:01:32.8
00:00:01.2
34 26
ESP

Vilariño Luis / Murado José
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
30
00:15:59.5
00:15:59.5 00:01:38.7
00:00:05.9
35 62
LTU

Sluckus Jonas / Šileikis G.
Škoda Fabia R5 
RC2
31
00:16:00.0
00:16:00.0 00:01:39.2
00:00:00.5
36 42
ESP

Bassas Josep / Coronado Axel
Peugeot 208 Rally4 
RC4
3
00:16:00.0
00:16:00.0 00:01:39.2
00:00:00.0
37 31
PRT

Monteiro A. / Eiró Sancho
Škoda Fabia Rally2 Evo 
RC2
32
00:16:00.9
00:16:00.9 00:01:40.1
00:00:00.9
38 48
LVA

Sesks M. / Francis Renārs
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
4
00:16:02.9
00:16:02.9 00:01:42.1
00:00:02.0
39 51
NOR

Nore Ola jun. / Eriksen Jørgen
Renault Clio Rally4 
RC4
5
00:16:03.2
00:16:03.2 00:01:42.4
00:00:00.3
40 37
POL

Pryczek Michał / Pryczek Jacek
Subaru Impreza STI 
RC2
33
00:16:05.3
00:16:05.3 00:01:44.5
00:00:02.1
41 40
POL

Poloński D. / Sitek Łukasz
Fiat 124 Abarth RGT 
RGT
1
00:16:12.7
00:16:12.7 00:01:51.9
00:00:07.4
42 43
ROU

Maior Norbert / Maior Francesca
Peugeot 208 Rally4 
RC4
6
00:16:17.0
00:16:17.0 00:01:56.2
00:00:04.3
43 46
EST

Kasari Kaspar / Raidma Rainis
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
7
00:16:24.3
00:16:24.3 00:02:03.5
00:00:07.3
44 44
DEU

Loof Nick / Magalhães Hugo
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
8
00:16:26.0
00:16:26.0 00:02:05.2
00:00:01.7
45 38
LVA

Igaveņš A. / Igaveņš Ralfs
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X 
RC2
34
00:16:28.0
00:16:28.0 00:02:07.2
00:00:02.0
46 47
CZE

Polášek D. / Janovská K.
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
9
00:16:40.2
00:16:40.2 00:02:19.4
00:00:12.2
47 28
POL

Widłak Igor / Dymurski Daniel
Ford Fiesta Rally3 
RC3
3
00:16:40.4
00:16:40.4 00:02:19.6
00:00:00.2
48 60
TUR

Timur Y. / Aslan Onur
Renault Clio Rally5 
RC5
1
00:16:43.0
00:16:43.0 00:02:22.2
00:00:02.6
49 20
HUN

László Z. / Kovács A.
Ford Fiesta Rally3 
RC3
4
00:16:46.4
00:16:46.4 00:02:25.6
00:00:03.4
50 15
LUX

Munster G. / Louka Louis
Hyundai i20 R5 
RC2
35
00:16:54.6
00:16:54.6 00:02:33.8
00:00:08.2
51 55
BEL

Molle Amaury / Barral Florian
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
10
00:17:03.3
00:17:03.3 00:02:42.5
00:00:08.7
52 59
ITA

Mabellini A. / Lenzi Virginia
Renault Clio Rally5 
RC5
2
00:17:06.6
00:17:06.6 00:02:45.8
00:00:03.3
53 57
FRA

Rossi Ghjuvanni / Volpei Baptiste
Renault Clio Rally5 
RC5
3
00:17:07.4
00:17:07.4 00:02:46.6
00:00:00.8
54 58
FRA

Bergounhe B. / Descharne M.
Renault Clio Rally5 
RC5
4
00:17:07.6
00:17:07.6 00:02:46.8
00:00:00.2
55 52
HUN

László Martin / Berendi Dávid
Peugeot 208 Rally4 
RC4
11
00:17:07.9
00:17:07.9 00:02:47.1
00:00:00.3
56 53
EST

Nõgene J. / Koskinen Simo
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
12
00:17:27.3
00:17:27.3 00:03:06.5
00:00:19.4
57 50
AUT

Landa Nikolai / Landa Günter
Ford Fiesta Rally4 
RC4
13
00:17:45.9
00:17:45.9 00:03:25.1
00:00:18.6
58 39
CZE

Rada Martin / Jugas Jaroslav
Fiat 124 Abarth RGT 
RGT
2
00:18:07.5
00:18:07.5 00:03:46.7
00:00:21.6
59 45
POL

Lewandowski Ł. / Sadowski Adrian
Opel Corsa Rally4 
RC4
14
00:19:50.1
00:19:50.1 00:05:29.3
00:01:42.6
60 56
ARG

Soria Paulo / Der Ohannesian M.
Renault Clio Rally5 
RC5
5
00:26:43.0
00:26:43.0 00:12:22.2
00:06:52.9
INFORMACIJE O BI 1
retired (52 - László Martin / Berendi Dávid): damaged suspension after SS 1
retired (56 - Soria Paulo / Der Ohannesian Marcelo): accident in SS 1
(15 - Munster Grégoire / Louka Louis): puncture
flash info (3 - Marczyk Miko / Gospodarczyk Szymon): I wasn't happy, especially on braking I should be more confident.
flash info (11 - Gryazin Nikolay / Aleksandrov Konstantin): I'm happy with the driving, but I'm not happy with the grip. We had some strategy but I'm not sure if we can keep the pace and the tyres in condition.
flash info (18 - Kreim Fabian / Christian Frank): To be honest I'm not quite satisfied, in some places there was some lose gravel.
flash info (2 - Mikkelsen Andreas / Fløene Ola): So much cleaning, guys starting behind have advantage. But I did my best, I was pushing. I don't now the rally at all, I think this will be our biggest challenge of this year's ERC.
flash info (1 - Lukyanuk Alexey / Eremeev Dmitry): The setup works well, but we missed a junction, lost maybe 5 seconds.
flash info (16 - Veiby Ole Christian / Andersson Jonas): We had a lot of cleaning out there, I did couple of mistakes and struggled in the brakng points.
flash info (21 - Tempestini Simone / Itu Sergiu): Quite slippery, I think we need to adapt the setup little bit. It was more slippery than I expected.
flash info (22 - Jeets Raul / Taniel Timo): Not so good starting position, but what we can. But everything is going OK.
flash info (4 - Solans Nil / Martí Marc): The feeling from inside was well, but the road was very slippery and we were sliding a lot.
flash info (17 - Pietarinen Eerik / Linnaketo Antti): Quite good, but I was braking too early in some places.
flash info (8 - Cais Erik / Žáková Jindřiška): The grip was really bad, I expected much more grip, I was surprised how slippery it was. I tried to be as smooth as possible on these roads. But I'm not very experienced on this so let's see.
flash info (12 - Scandola Umberto / D'Amore Guido): The car is very good, but it's much slippery, there is a lot of gravel, but that's rally.
flash info (5 - Herczig Norbert / Ferencz Ramón): It was quite OK, we tried to do our best, we cleaned the road bud in some places it was already quite clean, I didn't expect that. The car is OK.
flash info (7 - Bonato Yoann / Boulloud Benjamin): It's very slippery today, difficult stage for us, but good experience. But we are sliding a lot.